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15: Journey into Mystery #84 (v1)

" The Mighty Thor vs. The Executioner "
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Journey into Mystery #84 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: Jack Kirby, Joe Sinnott
Writers: Larry Lieber
Pencilers: Jack Kirby
Inkers: Dick Ayers
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Letterers: Artie Simek
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: September 1962
Release Date: July 1962
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Pages: 13
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 1,821                 Times Rated: 917
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Journey into Mystery #84 (v1)
Incredible Hulk #3 (v1)
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#15 (v1)
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#83 (v1)
 
16: Incredible Hu...
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Dr. Donald Blake lends his medical skills to an American medical relief team travelling to San Diablo, a town in South America who is under the tyranny of a dictator calling himself the Executioner. Will more be required of Blake and his alter-ego then just medical attention.
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Main Characters
  Thor
Thor last appeared in Journey into Mystery #83 (v1). Thor next appears in Journey into Mystery #85 (v1).
     
Supporting Characters
  Jane Foster
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Jane Foster in the mainstream continuity. Jane Foster next appears in Journey into Mystery #85 (v1).
     
  Roger Graham
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This is the first appearance by Roger Graham in the mainstream continuity. Roger Graham next appears in Thor #394 (v1).
     
Villains
  Executioner (San Diablos)
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This is the first appearance by Executioner (San Diablos) in the mainstream continuity.
     
 
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San Diablos Military
This is the first appearance by San Diablos Military in the mainstream continuity.
   
     
 
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Mjolnir
Mjolnir last appeared in Journey into Mystery #83 (v1). Mjolnir next appears in Journey into Mystery #85 (v1).
 
     
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This is the first appearance of Thor's ongoing love interest, Jane Foster.
 
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Issue Review
 
Calion
   May 23, 2016
The writing in Thor so far is surprisingly bad. Not, perhaps, as bad as most Golden Age Marvel, but pretty bad nonetheless.

In this issue, what struck me most was the assault on physics. It seems that Thor would find it difficult to land on a jet with his method of propulsion. Wouldn't it be difficult to change direction in mid-flight? And how can he spin the hammer in mid-air, when he's using it to pull him along? How exactly can a tree be strong enough to flip over a tank?... (continued)
 
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RikerDonegal
   November 16, 2013
A fairly mundane villain, but - at least - there’s an actual proper story this time. Plus, an amusing anti-Communist leaning. 5/10
 
 
 
 
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This issues opens up with a recap of Thor's origin and his fight from the Stone Men from Saturn. Afterwards we join Dr. Blake at his hospital where he treating a patient. We then find out that Dr. Blake has feelings for his nurse, Jane Foster, and that she also has feelings for him, although neither are aware of this mutual affection. Dr. Blake learns that while he was away on vacation that a revolution breaks out in San Diablo with the leader of the pro-communist faction, known as The Executioner, killing nearly everyone who he comes across.

While at a conference Dr. Blake is given a chance to go to San Diablo to help the people there. Jane Foster joins Dr. Blake on this trip, although it might prove to be a dangerous one. While on the way to San Diablo the ship comes under attack by the Executioners planes and Dr. Blake has to find a area to hide so that no one will the transformation into Thor. Thor is easily able to destroy the planes and dives into the water unseen so that he can transform back into Dr. Blake.

In San Diablo the Executioner learns that his planes have failed to accomplish their mission of destroying the ship and he orders the commander be taken to firing squad. After landing at San Diablo the doctors make their way to the sick who need help, but are ambushed by the Executioner's soldiers. Dr. Blake, while hiding behind a rock, hits his staff twice on the ground to summon a storm which disorients the soldiers and causes them to flee. After continuing on their way for a bit the doctors run into a squad of tanks. Finding a hiding spot, Dr. Blake transforms himself into Thor and easily over powers and destroys all the tanks.

During the fight, Jane was taken hostage and Thor flees, seeing no way to save her at the moment. Jane is taken to face the Executioner when Dr. Blake shows up and offers a trade, him for her. The Executioner takes Blake's cane and orders him to face the firing squad. Jane, not wanting to see the man she likes killed, offers to marry the Executioner in exchange for Blake's life. Not wanting to see this, Dr. Blake taunts the Executioner into fighting him without the cane.

When the Executioner drops the cane, Blake picks it up and hits it on the ground transforming into Thor. Before the soldiers are able to recover themselves from the bright flash of the transformation, Thor hurls his hammer into a nearby tent bringing it with the hammer when it returns. The tent falls onto the soldiers as the troops for the Democratic faction arrive. Seeing that the Executioner's troops were fleeing, Thor strikes his hammer four times causing a nearby mountain to erupt, blocking them from fleeing.

In the confusion, the Executioner tries to escape with as much money as he can. Seeing this, his troops realize that he was only in it for himself and kill him before he can get away. After the fighting, Jane asked Dr. Blake where he was while everything was going down. When he tells her that he was hiding, Jane thinks him a coward and how handsome and courageous Thor was.
 
 
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Comments
   
 
  Safis Says:    
  2012-03-20 13:15:23  
  You'd think people would start to get suspicious, the way Dr. Blake keeps disappearing every time Thor shows up. I guess Spider-Man is kind of the same situation, though.  
 
 

  UTDestroyer Says:    
  2012-05-10 01:40:21  
  Of course Spider-Man doesn't throw on his costume in plain sight like Blake turning into Thor in front of the Executioner  
 
 

  makaze88 Says:    
  2012-05-24 22:02:28  
  Good ol' 1960s American anti-communist propaganda. :)  
 
 

  Psikonetic Says:    
  2012-06-16 00:54:11  
  Ah, very anti-commie, as is expected at the time. Look how EEEEVVVVIIILLL those communists are, luckily San Diablo has a Democratic army fighting for them too.

On a plus side, we start getting the emotions behind Blake and his love for Jane, our first kidnap the love interest scene for Thor and the start of the crazy ways he has to come up with hiding his secret identity.

The blinding flash, Blake's gone and suddenly Thor's there, but they can't be the same person move is my favorite.

The characterization was welcome, the over-the-top Commie warlord story wasn't. Average issue.
 
 
 

  Dark_Knight93 Says:    
  2012-06-23 19:38:17  
  JiM #84 has similar to Incredible Hulk #1 in some ways. The first similarity is that character interaction is good. Dr. Blake's character is actually fleshed out unlike the previous issue, and a love interest is introduced. I dislike the generic love triangle that is overused in comics, but it isn't that big of a deal. The only real gripe about this issue is the cheesy anti-communist plot. But it's the 60s so what can you expect? Overall one of the better stories on the reading order so far.  
 
 

  Ice Says:    
  2012-07-15 19:50:21  
  * Jane is called "Jane Nelson" in this issue.

* Early Thor probably has the poorest writing of any of the early Marvel books. (He switches from Blake to Thor in plain sight without anybody noticing. Jane talks about him being cowardly, only a few panels after he calls out the leader of a Communist army while in front of a firing squad.)

* I'm having trouble deciding if I think all the anti-Communist propaganda is cute or really, really, REALLY bad.

But, you can only be so harsh on these older stories. I gave it a three. It's pretty average for the time, in my opinion.
 
 
 

  specialque Says:    
  2012-09-13 10:26:07  
  I already hate the constant anti-Communist propaganda that keeps showing up in early Marvel. I understand why it's there, but as a modern reader, it's annoying.  
 
 

  Borealis Says:    
  2012-09-20 19:11:40  
  Well, my son has now announced that Thor is his favorite superhero. He liked the part where he fought the tanks and 'fought' the Executioner. I'm sure his preference will change once we get to Amazing Fantasy 15...but until then, Thor is #1! For myself...the story was 'meh,' noteworthy only for Jane Foster's first appearance (even though the name is different in this story).  
 
 

  Phantasmagoria Says:    
  2012-10-05 20:10:10  
  Ugh. I almost gave this one a two, but I liked the art too much, particularly of Jane, who is quite fetching in this issue.  
 
 

  alexanderalexanders Says:    
  2012-11-23 20:55:15  
  I guess the anti communist propaganda is just a matter of the times. It would be crazy to live during that time and actually be that closed minded, but maybe i'm just naive about our countries past.  
 
 

  alexanderalexanders Says:    
  2012-11-23 20:57:14  
  This issue has the first showing of the executioner, while, the only marvel comics I have read have been the ones in the order so far, the Executioner apparently has a very important role in upcoming issues. Thor is sent to help some people in a revolution, and basically just ends up killing commies and making America look like the top dog. Its a good quick read, and very reminiscent of the times in the 60s.  
 
 

  allenryals Says:    
  2013-01-11 17:35:04  
  Not that great of an issue. I'm ready to be done with the commies already.  
 
 

  Spider-Borg Says:    
  2013-01-13 14:53:29  
  Seriously I think that I commented on every issue that I read for the first 50 issues in the order, but I'm discovering that a lot of my comments are no longer here. I guess I didn't wait for the comment to actually be submitted before changing to a different page or something, but this is pretty annoying because now I can't remember what my comment was. I do remember that the early Thor issues were a lot more readable that I assumed they would be. That has changed at the point i'm at now though.  
 
 

  Trebek Says:    
  2013-02-23 18:30:25  
  It's interesting to see how Communism is portrayed in these early comics. It makes sense why people grew up fearing it when all communists go around murdering people and saying comrade.  
 
 

  minicheddaz Says:    
  2013-03-02 18:46:12  
  i know they will get better if i hang in there!  
 
 

  minicheddaz Says:    
  2013-03-03 06:05:57  
  actually i don't mind this issue. its better than the first. i'm not a fan of the communism schtick but as i mentioned in another comment thats how it was then. i like the art and the way the fight scenes look. especially the first panel on page 10 where thor fights the tanks. that looks great.
its daft that jane thinks that don blake is a coward at the end. he stood up in front of a firing squad! how much braver do you need to be? so he gets rescued by (ahem) himself!
 
 
 

  skalchemist Says:    
  2013-04-26 16:51:54  
  If it had been the other Executioner it would have been more fun. As it is, a it too much propaganda for my taste.  
 
 

  skabeaters Says:    
  2013-05-02 18:11:50  
  I can see what's happening. And they don't have a clue. Dr. Blake is a gentleman for not taking credit for rescuing Jane. He could get the girl in his 2nd Marvel appearance. Hopefully the patience pays off. I love all the talk about 'commies', it really ties into real world events at that time. It's like a history lesson, sci-fi children's story and propaganda all rolled into one.  
 
 

  leisch Says:    
  2013-07-15 19:10:48  
  Sailors' comments--He flew like a legendary god. He had a powerful hammer. He knocked out the jets. Cue Jane-He was handsome. And of course Don Blake loves her but can never tell her and she loves Don Blake but can't figure why he never indicates the same feeling. So let's look: Commie villains-check, shallow female-check, flawed hero with unrequited love-check. We're in a 60s Marvel story.  
 
 

  TheGrandIgloo Says:    
  2013-08-13 16:46:59  
  The commies were woefully un-zany so this issue is no dice.  
 
 

  marvelcomicslover Says:    
  2013-08-26 23:58:49  
  The art was ok in this. The story was average (as is mentioned above). I liked seeing Thor demolish the tanks and planes so quickly. I liked the introduction of Jane Foster. Thor is extremely powerful.  
 
 

  Tarquinnff3 Says:    
  2013-09-23 04:57:22  
  So far Thor is interesting, but I'm not totally hooked. It seems like Thor relied too much on tapping the ground with his cane a number of times to fix problems. "Oh look, an ant hill, better tap the ground 6 times to summon a bottle of ant killer." "Oh look, I locked my keys in the car, better tap the ground 27 times to teleport the keys into my hand." You get the idea. Aside from that, I do like that they introduced a love interest so soon in the series and I'm looking forward to seeing where it leads. I just hope they don't use her as a victim to be rescued in every issue. Women are not as helpless as some of these comics make them out to be.  
 
 

  VenomousIntent Says:    
  2013-11-05 19:49:20  
  I absolutely love the artwork in Thor. In the end I gave this comic three stars just because it is blatant propaganda.  
 
 

  Locust75 Says:    
  2013-11-27 19:34:04  
  A 2 star for the action only, and not for the villain.

Cover Me Bad - I like the splash page better than the cover.

Team Sif - Sorry, but I just never did like Jane.

Banana Republic - Ah, San Diablo the 1st in a long line of crazied named spanish countries. In english it translates to Saint Devil.

Distinguished Competition - Sounds like Perry White is on board the Ship of Mercy.

Proudly Made In The Savage Land - Is Thor's hammer made out of Anti-Metal Vibranium?

'Nuff Said - "It is the Americans who are truly our friends...not those who would plunge us into war!"-Misled Comrade

 
 
 

  Bramwell Says:    
  2013-12-07 22:53:22  
  1. Page 2 - Panel 6 - classic image

2. Excellent character development on the good doctor. Doctor, nerd, nice guy, gimpy, shy. All good details. Also an excellent prey relationship dynamic with Jane.

3. Bizarre way to fly. Would make more sense to use weather power and air pressure.

4. The numbered cane stamps and 60-second thing have to go.

5. Page 10 - nice art

6. Seems like he gave away his secret identity to Jane. By the way...why ever tuirn back into Dr. Blake. I'd be content living as Thor.

3 stars
 
 
 

  opusaug Says:    
  2014-01-03 10:54:32  
  I hate commies and love the propaganda, so this issue is especially good in that respect - it's one of the few times in the early going that the villain really is oppressing people and not just some lame spy for Comrade Nikita. Still, the plot is thin and the development of the characters not advanced enough to go past 3 stars.  
 
 

  dburleson33 Says:    
  2014-07-30 13:16:50  
  For this era, it would seem that an invasion of Alien Commies would be the perfect villain for these stories. It would have to be lead by a buffoonish-racial-stereotype leader, who sees the world in black-in-white viewpoints. Bonus points if that leader, was amphibian or some odd thing like stone.  
 
 

  mushroommunk Says:    
  2014-09-18 20:09:10  
  I agree the story is subpar, though well done for so few pages. I really like the art though, as someone else mentioned Jane is well drawn.

 
 
 

  quartertwain Says:    
  2015-02-15 17:31:19  
  I like the scene where The Executioner is eating a Turkey Leg. It reminds me of Birth of a Nation. I'm not sure which propaganda piece is more insulting, naive, and just plain old idiotic. Watching Stan Lee as a young adult in Mallrats, it's hard for me to believe that he was really this dumb. I guess hate and ignorance sells comics? Or was it a sign of censorship? It any case, its pretty funny coming from a country that just got caught with its pants down in The Bay of Pigs fiasco and would go on to napalm countless civilians in the Vietnam War.  
 
 

  quartertwain @ quartertwain (original post):    
  2015-02-15 17:42:27  
  Come to think of it, much of this comic borrows from D.W. Griffith. The executioner has qualities of newly freed slaves as well as Northern carpetbaggers. An ugly, dark skinned man, he tries to force himself on the pure southern belle. When all is said and done, he attempts to flee back to the north with his earnings, for he was only using these primitive people for financial gain. I wonder if Larry Lieber did this on purpose? The similarities are striking.  
 
 

  rodyoungerblood Says:    
  2015-05-22 07:33:05  
  Goddamn Commies. You can't escape them.  
 
 

  jfw1980 Says:    
  2015-06-06 05:44:59  
  Thor fighting commies is just not my thing.  
 
 

  hendrica Says:    
  2015-10-16 07:03:13  
  So the story doesn't go that way but based on the cover alone it suggests that Dr. Blake is going to die by the firing squad because he can't reveal his identity. Can't decide if that's just plain stupid or somehow supposed to be noble.  
 
 

  jbb10499 Says:    
  2015-11-19 15:19:17  
  Communists are a lame plot device  
 
 

  wingot Says:    
  2015-12-06 07:46:48  
  Interesting.  
 
 

  yack Says:    
  2015-12-22 11:08:33  
  Political comic villains... sigh.  
 
 

  J-hat Says:    
  2016-03-25 09:20:53  
  I know it's only issue 2 but i feel Thor is a little over powered for the enemies he's currently facing.  
 
 

  Billstar2 Says:    
  2016-04-08 00:15:56  
  I got excited thinking this was the character that works with Enchantress but no such luck. Loved the first issue but this one was a let down.  
 
 

  miningturtle Says:    
  2016-04-15 15:22:18  
  Seems everybody in the 60's was blind to their surroundings.  
 
 

  Calion Says:    
  2016-05-11 20:10:03  
  The South American town is named…Saint Devil. WTF, Mate?  
 
 

  RobinHoodMtl Says:    
  2016-05-31 17:48:58  
 
  • Well I didn’t know the cane itself could summon a storm.

  • “And he was so… so handsome!” and “He was so strong… so masculine… so wonderful!” Don, my man, now you know you’re chopped liver!

  • Did you all take a look at that tiny toy tank on page 9?

  • Blake transformed right before their eyes, and no one thought for a second that he was Thor?! Don, my man, now you know your secret is safe!

  • Why is it that money suitcases always have bills coming out of them and that money bags always have dollar signs on them?

  • The artwork redeems for the poor story, even considering Jane's first app, so three stars.
 
 
 

  yert1981 Says:    
  2016-06-02 18:17:42  
  Another average issue. Thor is a little too dominant for someone just learning his true might but the villians aren't too stout either.  
 
 

  Xtremetko Says:    
  2016-08-16 14:09:04  
  I like many commenting are reading from The Order and I am new to comics and don't hold a lot of the same expectations other than the movies we see.

- I must say thus far out of all the heros that have been introduced such as : Spiderman, FF, Hulk, that Thor has the best Art design at the time.

- I don't mind the blatant commie propoganda cause that was of the time. The authors don't publish necessarily for the future fan 50 years in the future but of the hear and now to make things more relatable.

- I like the introduction of "Jane Nelson", but really I agree with comments above, your not going to get anywhere with her Don.

- Story is really not that great. I give it 3 stars for the art design mostly but I really didn't know about Thor alter-ego nor does it fit with todays mythos.

- Had a great laugh with Jane's reaction to Thor and her obvious ignorance of not seeing whats right in front of her... she must get all dreamy eyed for Thor's muscles to not see Don.
 
 
 

  Murphynator42 Says:    
  2016-10-17 22:27:56  
  Jane!
And.....more commies *sad face*
 
 
 

  hawkeye64 Says:    
  2016-11-06 16:45:15  
  Even with the introduction Of Jane Foster, this is a bland story. Art is good though. Not sure how the commies don't realize that Don Blake and Thor are the same person when Don changes to Thor right in front of them.  
 
 

  Zaktks32 Says:    
  2017-02-11 07:07:41  
 
Such a powerful character makes her first appearance here. Too bad she is involved in commie propaganda and the sexism of the time.

Interesting having Thor making his very first public performance outside the USA. Still bugs me to see him not remembering his previous life as Thor and yet knowing all the uses and powers of Mjölnir... he might have given the time to read the manual on his flight back from Norway?

★★★
 
 
 

  Nenriel Says:    
  2017-03-21 15:27:37  
  Your standard "help the army fight some Commies" story. Pretty dull overall. I don't have access to the other stories in these issues, but I can't imagine I'm missing much.  
 
 

  noahsell Says:    
  2017-06-01 18:53:20  
  This story is pretty dull but some of the elements still shine through  
 
 

  SamScrolls Says:    
  2017-06-13 00:15:19  
  3/5. Careful Stan, your politics are showing.  
 
 

  beerzerked Says:    
  2017-10-09 20:03:07  
  Lightning bolts can cause volcanic eruptions. Good to know.  
 
 

 
 
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This collection includesJourney into Mystery #83 (v1), Journey into Mystery #84 (v1), Journey into Mystery #85 (v1), Journey into Mystery #86 (v1), Journey into Mystery #87 (v1), Journey into Mystery #88 (v1), Journey into Mystery #89 (v1), Journey into Mystery #90 (v1), Journey into Mystery #91 (v1), Journey into Mystery #92 (v1), Journey into Mystery #93 (v1), Journey into Mystery #94 (v1), Journey into Mystery #95 (v1), Journey into Mystery #96a (v1), Journey into Mystery #97a (v1), Journey into Mystery #98a (v1), Journey into Mystery #99a (v1), Journey into Mystery #100a (v1), Journey into Mystery #101a (v1), Journey into Mystery #102a (v1), Journey into Mystery #103a (v1), Journey into Mystery #104a (v1), Journey into Mystery #105a (v1), Journey into Mystery #106a (v1), Journey into Mystery #107a (v1), Journey into Mystery #108a (v1), Journey into Mystery #109a (v1), Journey into Mystery #110a (v1), Journey into Mystery #111a (v1), Journey into Mystery #112a (v1)
     
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