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1619: Marvel Team-Up #8 (v1)

" The Man-Killer Moves at Midnight "
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Marvel Team-Up #8 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Roy Thomas
Cover Artists: Jim Mooney, John Romita Sr.
Writers: Gerry Conway
Pencilers: Jim Mooney
Inkers: Jim Mooney
Colourists: Stan Goldberg
Letterers: Charlotte Jetter
Editors: Roy Thomas
Cover Date: April 1973
Release Date: January 1973
Story Arc: -
Pages: 20
Cover Price: $0.20
Times Read: 255                 Times Rated: 161
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Issue Blurb
The Cat has tracked a powerful and idealistic assassin from Chicago to New York in the hopes of taking her down. Once in the Big Apple she enlists fellow loner Spider-Man to help her do the job.
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
Spider-Man last appeared in Marvel Team-Up #7 (v1). Spider-Man next appears in Fantastic Four #133 (v1).
  The Cat
The Cat last appeared in The Cat #4. The Cat next appears in Giant-Size Creatures #1.
Supporting Characters
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Watkins in the mainstream continuity.
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Man-Killer in the mainstream continuity. Man-Killer next appears in Daredevil #123 (v1).
Group Appearances
A.I.M. last appeared in Astonishing Tales #13 (v1). A.I.M. next appears in Astonishing Tales #18 (v1).
Equipment, Items & Vehicles
Web-Shooters last appeared in Marvel Team-Up #7 (v1). Web-Shooters next appears in Fantastic Four #133 (v1).
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Issue Review
   November 17, 2015
I hated this issue.
It's simplistic nonsense.
Full of Women's Lib, anti-Women's Lib and Man-hating.
And it has a dreadful ending, too.
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Issue Synopsis
Out on his night patrol, Spider-Man is attacked by the Cat. After a brief fight they talk and the Cat asks for Spider-Manís help. She is trying to stop a female supervillain who goes by the name of Man-Killer who is going around killing politicians and anyone else who spoke out against ďWomenís LibĒ. The Cat had first come across her in Chicago where they had fought and the Cat had lost. Now Man-Killer was in New York.

Across the city, Man-Killer interrupts a Womenís Lib meeting, killing a man that they had hired for protection just to prove a point. Man-Killerís origin is revealed. She was a former Olympic Skier called Katrina van Horn who had accepted a challenge from a man to see who was the better skier. The challenge had ended in disaster. Katrina had been badly injured and as a result, developed a hatred of men. A Militant group had retrained her and supplied her with an exoskeleton and Man-Killer was born.

Man-Killer leads her group in an attack the Harlem Power Plant, crashing into the plant in her specially constructed vehicle and taking out the guards. Spider-Man and the Cat arrive and immediately go into battle against Man-Killer and her armed liberationists. The Cat beats Man-Killer, but while Spider-Man wraps up the other women Man-Killer escapes with a prototype generator that contains radioactive materials. Spider-Man immediately takes off after her.

Spider-Manís spider-sense helps him find Man-Killer and they get into a violent fist-fight. The Cat arrives on the scene and reveals that she has discovered that Man-Killer as actually been unwittingly working for the men in charge of A.I.M. Man-Killer is so horrified that sheís been working for men that she has a complete mental breakdown.
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  Redsvetz Says:    
  2012-06-01 13:34:30  
  Who knew skiing the K-12 could turn you into a Super Villain?  

  Drax Says:    
  2013-06-24 20:02:35  
  Sudden realizations sure are tough on villains. First, Dark Messiah, then this jolly Man-Killer!  

  spencer617 Says:    
  2013-08-02 08:53:28  
  For the record, Conway was not the more experienced writer I was referring to in my last comment. The writing in this one, not so hot.  

  skalchemist Says:    
  2013-12-01 22:53:10  
  The Man Killer is a bit over the top, but wow does she have a cool flying battering ram car. That sucker is boss!  

  skalchemist Says:    
  2013-12-01 22:55:31  
  Oh,and just in case you were taking women's liberation too seriously, Gerry Conway comes along and makes a mockery of it. That Herry, he is pretty reliable for that.  

  leisch Says:    
  2014-02-13 16:52:12  
  Is there no planning at Marvel. Just months after debuting Thundra, a man-hating superstrong female, alng come Man-Killer, a man-hating superstrong female.  

  Garfieldicus Says:    
  2014-08-24 16:41:12  
  That was not an ending, that was an "Oh crap, we're out of pages."  

  Magik_Rune Says:    
  2014-09-07 23:54:48  
  Alternate ending :

-- Man-killer, you have a father, and he is a MAN.
-- No! It can't be!!

  scottyjrules Says:    
  2015-01-02 20:07:26  
  Great. Now the Cat is ruining other titles as well as her own. What did Spider-Man do to deserve this punishment?  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2015-03-13 11:33:37  
  Not even Spider-Man could save this stark disgrace...  

  duncanm Says:    
  2015-05-17 03:14:34  
  Nice to see Marvel dealing with female empowerment here with the same tact and understanding they displayed with the racial tensions shown in the Captain America comics.
At first I thought it was stupid that Cat attacked Spider-Man with the excuse that he wouldn't take her serious otherwise, but then I remember that that's pretty much exactly what happened with Spidey a few issues ago with that monkey man. So I guess Cat has super research skills.

  jwerth Says:    
  2015-07-23 10:49:05  
  This one bothered me a little bit less when I remembered it was literally written by a teenager. That bumped it all the way up to 1 star.  

  MattDog37 Says:    
  2016-03-05 14:56:20  
  Sad to see Man-Killer comes back, and in a Daredevil issue.  

  jareth Says:    
  2016-04-03 11:03:34  
  Okay, the Venus symbol and its placement on the Man-Killer's costume (especially pages 6,7,and 27)... you're kidding me, right? The Cat's mix of contemporary sexual politics with fisticuffs was painfully ham-handed enough in her own book. But this takes it to a whole new level of head-shaking schlock.  

  Namtrahj Says:    
  2016-05-12 14:03:46  
  This issue contains one of my favorite sound effects: "BUNCH!"  

  Locust75 Says:    
  2017-01-14 09:59:48  
  2 stars for the 1st app of the Man-Killer who will gone on to have a great future of beating up mama boys!!!

Jukebox - Also, I suggest listening to Hall & Oates "Maneater" while reading this comic!!!

Birth Giver - @jareth: I agree about the Venus symbol, I'm surprised her finishing move wasn't face sitting on men screaming "This is where you come from!"!!!

The Weaker Sex - Funny, Man-Killer has to use an exo-skeleton to be able to defeat men...

It's A Man's World - Poor Cat has to stay behind to do the paperwork, while Spidey goes a swingin'!!!

'Nuff Said - "He's a man, baby--and men are dirt!"-My Wife...uh, I mean Man-Killer

  dadoodoflow Says:    
  2017-05-08 13:25:39  
  Oh god, The Man-killer (Iím only at the title)

Hooray, solo Jim Mooney!

My cat always hunted spiders too

Iím already on The Man-killerís side (5:1)

The Man-Killerís ride looks like something out of Mega City One

Obviously her sisters in rage didnít have a conscious raising session on the irony of using such a phallic vehicle to commit a symbolic rape on the center of manís power, the Manhattan Harlem Power Plant naturally, showing how deep internalized misogyny really runs

I love Man-Killers litany of abuse every time she encounters a man, still totally on her side

"Crawl Manling Crawl!Ēneeds to be a song or grind house movie

Now Playing - this is a tough one - I wanted to go with Hall & oates ďMan-eaterĒ (which I now see Locust already covered) or Bikini Killís ďRebel GirlĒ but Iím leaning towards Anthrax ďIím the Man"

  Russ Says:    
  2017-05-24 20:31:07  
  Hoo-boy, another pile of stuff that belongs in the litter box. And the Cat had such promise, too....

It's almost as if Man-Killer was the embodiment of Marvel's unspoken belief in misogyny and why it should exist. It was a form of women's lib as seen through a fun-house mirror. Nah, that's almost dignifying the story.

1 star. The Cat deserved a lot better during this initial run of her character.

  Katryn Says:    
  2017-06-05 08:22:52  
  You know what? I feel like I owe Stan Lee an apology. There were so many times through his stuff in the 60s where the comments slammed him for some of his sexist comments and characters, and yet Black Widow has never yet been cooler. And then you get Gerry Conway, whose female characters range from vapid and useless to downright insulting. The Man-Killer is definitely the latter. So every time I grumbled about Stan, I take it back. And hurl it double at Gerry bloody Conway.  

  Spider-Borg Says:    
  2017-09-09 01:03:09  
  I f'n hate the cat.

Also, "the recipient of a most un-average blow" ... the picture in this panel looks like The Cat is getting punched in the vag.

  Marksman Says:    
  2018-03-11 09:58:08  
  At least Man-Killer's head didn't explode upon the climatic realization like Dark Messiah's did.  

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Marvel Masterworks: Marvel Team-Up, Volume 1
This collection includes Marvel Team-Up #1 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #2 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #3 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #4 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #5 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #6 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #7 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #8 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #9 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #10 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #11 (v1)
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