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1811: Incredible Hulk #172 (v1)

" And Canst Thou Slay... The Juggernaut? "
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Incredible Hulk #172 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Roy Thomas
Cover Artists: Herb Trimpe
Writers: Roy Thomas, Tony Isabella
Pencilers: Herb Trimpe
Inkers: Jack Abel
Colourists: Petra Scotese (Goldberg)
Letterers: Alan Kupperberg
Editors: Roy Thomas
Cover Date: February 1974
Release Date: October 1973
Story Arc: -
Pages: 20
Cover Price: $0.20
Times Read: 280                 Times Rated: 176
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Amazing Spider-Man #128 (v1)
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Incredible Hulk #172 (v1)
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Iron Man #57 (v1)
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1813: Iron Man
#57 (v1)
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Armbruster has captured the Hulk, and a former adversary has been called in to solve the "Hulk problem" once and for all. However, a miscalculation compound their problem by unwittingly calling forth the Juggernaut.
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
  The Hulk
The Hulk last appeared in Incredible Hulk #171 (v1). The Hulk next appears in Marvel Feature #11 (v1).
Supporting Characters
  John Armbruster
John Armbruster last appeared in Incredible Hulk #171 (v1). John Armbruster next appears in Incredible Hulk #173 (v1).
  Peter Corbeau
Peter Corbeau last appeared in Avengers #104 (v1). Peter Corbeau next appears in X-Men #98 (v1).
  Jim Wilson
Jim Wilson last appeared in Incredible Hulk #171 (v1). Jim Wilson next appears in Incredible Hulk #208 (v1).
  Thunderbolt Ross
Thunderbolt Ross last appeared in Incredible Hulk #171 (v1). Thunderbolt Ross next appears in Incredible Hulk #173 (v1).
  Betty Talbot
Betty Talbot last appeared in Incredible Hulk #171 (v1). Betty Talbot next appears in Incredible Hulk #173 (v1).
  Professor X
Professor X last appeared in Shanna the She-Devil #5 (v1). Professor X next appears in Captain America #172 (v1).
Cyclops last appeared in Avengers #111 (v1). Cyclops next appears in Captain America #172 (v1).
  Marvel Girl
Marvel Girl last appeared in Avengers #111 (v1). Marvel Girl next appears in Captain America #172 (v1).
  Talia Green
Talia Green last appeared in Incredible Hulk #171 (v1).
Juggernaut last appeared in Amazing Adventures #16 (v2). Juggernaut next appears in X-Men #101 (v1).
Group Appearances
The X-Men (Roster V)
The X-Men last appeared in Avengers #111 (v1). The X-Men next appears in Captain America #172 (v1).
Equipment, Items & Vehicles
Cyclops' Visor
Cyclops' Visor last appeared in Avengers #111 (v1). Cyclops' Visor next appears in Captain America #172 (v1).
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Issue Review
   September 16, 2013
Action-packed and very enjoyable. 6/10
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  Kez Says:    
  2012-11-24 16:11:14  
  The X-Men have gone back to their lame old outfits for this issue, apparently..  

  Wady Says:    
  2013-05-10 19:00:35  
  Wow loved the battle seens what a pair.  

  Drax Says:    
  2013-07-16 14:20:08  
  Extra star for getting rid of the silliness around Juggernaut having mystical powers and aging quickly without hate.  

  Tarquinnff3 Says:    
  2014-10-05 15:37:15  
  Oh look, two of my least favorite brutes, in one tiny little package. Oh boy.  

  Xythe Says:    
  2014-11-07 16:39:30  
  If only we could use the highly experimental space-time warping technology I'm working on. Oh wait, we can totally do that, all the highly specialised equipment I need just so happens to be right here.  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2015-04-16 10:03:47  
  Does this mean the X-Men are coming back soon?  

  duncanm Says:    
  2015-06-28 17:59:29  
  I liked how Jugs gave the Hulk the story of his life, and the Hulk had no clue what her was talking about.
I'm starting to get the feeling that Armbruster was brought in just to make Ross look reasonable by comparison.
Good thing Hulk took off Juggy's helmet, or those X-Men would have been screwed.

  alendor Says:    
  2015-09-30 13:13:54  
  The last few pages really pulled this issue up and glad to see this growing conflict between Thunderbolt and Armbruster. Looking forward for more from Hulk.  

  gumchewspit Says:    
  2016-05-07 01:25:38  
  Still overall liking the art in this title, and the eyes were better this time.  

  dadoodoflow Says:    
  2017-05-27 12:13:58  
  - Is anyone else shipping Armbruster & Corbeau (ArmBreau)? I already have titles for some of their erotic fan fiction "This is Not a Pipe" , "On the Dean's List" , "Can You Follow Orders" and "Oh"

- Is Englehardt off of Hulk now? That's a shame, his run has been the best so far

- What happened to the Rhino & Abomination? Escape? Imprisoned somewhere completely different?

- Dumb Magician! Even Hulk thinks Dr. Strange is a douche.


  Russ Says:    
  2017-07-30 15:12:56  
  Fun battle between the Hulk and Juggernaut. It's been awhile since the Hulk cut loose like that. While the character development in this title has been exemplary, battles like this are what I tune into the Hulk for.

Also liking the growing conflict between Ross and Armbruster. The Colonel has guts talking that way to a General. Even if Ross isn't commanding Hulkbuster base anymore, he can still slap Armbruster into the brig if he wants to.

X-Men watch: as of the publication of this issue, X-Men #86 came out about the same time, which reprinted X-Men #38 November 1967. This is in the midst of their fight with Factor-X and still in their blue-yellow school uniforms, hence the uniforms Cyclops and Marvel Girl in this issue. I also found it strange that the appropriate footnotes referenced the reprint issues, not the originals. Maybe the reprints were actually selling? But they did reference the Angel missing here, and of course he's fighting with the X-Men in the reprints which has got to be confusing to readers back then.

3 stars. Funny references to the Defenders the Hulk made, except Hawkeye didn't stay with the team.


  Katryn Says:    
  2017-09-07 07:55:10  
  It's nice to see Hulk actually has a character now that isn't just Hulk mad, Hulk smash. It's been happening for a while but it really just hit home with how much he really didn't want to fight but would keep Juggernaut from attacking those random tourists.  

  Locust75 Says:    
  2017-11-03 20:05:33  
  3 stars for the Jivin' Juggernaut Juggling Juggalo's!!!

Cover Me - Sweet cover of the boys busting out!!!

No Prize - Col. Armbruster calls Corbeau...Courbeau! (p3,p5) Also, the Colonel is in the Air Force, but he is wearing an Army uniform!

Prespective - The Hulk's leg is shorter after kicking the wall...(p7,p6)

Pseudonym - @dadoodoflow: I have some more titles for you! "There's only One Bar of Soap", "Drop and give Me Twenty", "Cocked & Loaded", and "Rocketman"!!!

Snob - Man, is Corbeau an arse to Armbruster, and to top it off his machine didn't even work!!

Pot Meet Kettle - Gen. Ross can't really say much about Armbruster messing up. Especially, since Ross has been doing the same exact thing for the last ten years!!!

Fight Club - Great scenes of Juggy knocking the Hulk over the rock formation, and then going through it to get to the Hulk! Also, when the Hulk is spinning Juggy and he goes flying into another rock formation!!!

Rappin' With Russ - @Russ: They mentioned the reprints because that would've be easier to find than the originals. And they should be in their new uniforms because they mention the missing Angel. Speaking of which, they're taking their sweet time looking for Angel. He's been missing since Avengers #111. Also, it was Factor Three...

'Nuff Said - "You can play "Boy Buddies" with our country's enemies if you like, general--"-Manly Col. Armbruster

  Russ @ Locust75 (original post):    
  2017-11-13 17:33:08  
  NOT the Dawning of the Age of Apocalypse: Yep, Factor-Three; I stand corrected....  

  Marksman Says:    
  2018-04-17 21:47:55  
  Not only is Armbruster in an Army uniform, but Gen Ross is also sporting the Army green.

Juggernaut almost gets ran over by the Griswolds on the way to Wally-World.

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Marvel Masterworks: X-Men, Volume 8
This collection includes Avengers #110 (v1), Avengers #111 (v1), Incredible Hulk #180 (v1), Incredible Hulk #172 (v1), Incredible Hulk #181 (v1), Captain America #172 (v1), Captain America #173 (v1), Captain America #174 (v1), Captain America #175 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #23 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #38 (v1), Defenders #15 (v1), Defenders #16 (v1), Giant-Size Fantastic Four #4
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Date User Name Update
   February 10, 2018 TStarnes Added Cyclops[appost] Visor listing.
   February 10, 2018 TStarnes
   February 10, 2018 TStarnes
   November 26, 2017 TStarnes
   October 11, 2015 fragsel Added Talia Green to the issue.
   March 15, 2014 Raistlin903 Updated the listing for The X-Men.
   March 8, 2014 Raistlin903 Updated the listing for The X-Men.
   December 6, 2013 Raistlin903 Updated the listing for Jean Grey.
   December 6, 2013 Raistlin903 Updated the listing for Cyclops.
   December 6, 2013 Raistlin903 Updated the listing for Professor X.
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