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2041: Incredible Hulk #181 (v1)

" And Now... the Wolverine! "
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Incredible Hulk #181 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Roy Thomas
Cover Artists: Herb Trimpe
Writers: Len Wein
Pencilers: Herb Trimpe
Inkers: Jack Abel
Colourists: Glynis Wein (Oliver)
Letterers: Artie Simek
Editors: Roy Thomas
Cover Date: November 1974
Release Date: July 1974
Story Arc: -
Pages: 18
Cover Price: $0.25
Times Read: 332                 Times Rated: 197
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Incredible Hulk #179 (v1)
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Incredible Hulk #181 (v1)
Incredible Hulk #182 (v1)
Incredible Hulk #183 (v1)
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Battle rages deep in the Canadian hills; a three way bout between Hulk, the Wendigo and precocious newcomer Wolverine. To the victor goes the spoils, though, it's unclear exactly what those are...
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
  The Hulk
The Hulk last appeared in Incredible Hulk #180 (v1). The Hulk next appears in Incredible Hulk #182 (v1).
Supporting Characters
Wolverine last appeared in Incredible Hulk #180 (v1). Wolverine next appears in Incredible Hulk #182 (v1).
  Marie Cartier
Marie Cartier last appeared in Incredible Hulk #180 (v1).
  Wendigo (Paul Cartier)
Wendigo (Paul Cartier) last appeared in Incredible Hulk #180 (v1). Wendigo (Paul Cartier) next appears in Blaze #4.
  Wendigo (Georges Baptiste)
Wendigo (Georges Baptiste) last appeared in Incredible Hulk #180 (v1). Wendigo (Georges Baptiste) next appears in Monsters Unleashed #9d (v1).
Group Appearances
Canadian Armed Forces
Canadian Armed Forces last appeared in Incredible Hulk #180 (v1). Canadian Armed Forces next appears in Incredible Hulk #182 (v1).
Wendigo last appeared in Incredible Hulk #180 (v1). Wendigo next appears in Monsters Unleashed #9d (v1).
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Issue Notes

Why Essential Notes

This is the first full appearance of Wolverine.
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Issue Review
   March 31, 2016
#181 is famous for the Hulk/Wolverine battle, but the highlight is really the strong/tragic Wendigo story. The Herb Trimpe/Jack Abel art makes the Hulk look HUGE. 9/10
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  Redsvetz Says:    
  2012-09-09 08:44:01  
  So there it is. The first appearance of ol' Wolvie. That aside, it's actually a decent lil arc relative to the monotony of most Greenskin tales.  

  john54542 Says:    
  2013-01-29 18:46:56  
  This was great more for Wendigo and Georges sacrifice than the fact that it was first Wolverine (IMO). Also, this has one of the best covers I've ever seen on a comic book.  

  Kez Says:    
  2013-04-30 16:13:16  
  Ah, well there you go. Wolverine's famous catchphrase is "I'm the best at what I do... but I what I do isn't very nice."

Well, according to page 2 of this, what he does best is "moving".

  Kez Says:    
  2013-04-30 16:26:22  
  Really enjoyed this. Agree with what has been said above, Wolverine is pretty incidental in these two issues.. but the overall story with the Wendigo is really good. Very moving.  

  Drax Says:    
  2013-08-12 17:14:00  
  Great little arc. Wein is definitely finding his stride with the Hulk.  

  leisch Says:    
  2014-02-25 18:59:39  
  With a little work, they might make something out of this Wolverine guy.  

  instantdeath999 Says:    
  2014-03-22 08:24:52  
  Touching little ending there.

Something else? Oh yeah. Wolverine was nice.

  podgejeff Says:    
  2014-09-04 12:51:03  
  From these quaint beginnings to being in every single Marvel book ever in just thirty years.  

  Tarquinnff3 Says:    
  2014-10-07 17:37:38  
  Hulk good. Comic good. Best Hulk comic I've read so far.  

  ThunderZtorm Says:    
  2015-01-09 18:30:04  
  Oh Wolvie, how I've missed you. Marvel feels a lot more proper now that you are here :P
(Yup, wolverine was my very first favorite comic book hero).

  heman0420 Says:    
  2015-03-01 23:45:24  
  I was excited to read this. Even though it turned out to be just an average story, I am excited to see what is in store for Wolverine next.  

  Xythe Says:    
  2015-03-14 15:34:04  
  Wow, dat Wolverine dialogue. Only thing that saved that from 1 star was Hulk being Hulk, which always makes I laugh.  

  cotter2 Says:    
  2015-03-16 21:58:13  
  Interesting how the most iconic Marvel hero (not counting Spiderman) started as a one-off lame villain.  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2015-05-16 20:30:25  
  Dear God, Wolvie is horrible in this issue.  

  j52y @ cotter2 (original post):    
  2015-08-16 02:37:05  
  I think they always planned on bringing him back. They started planting the seeds of his backstory here.  

  duncanm Says:    
  2015-10-06 23:13:09  
  Wolverine wasn't a villain, he was a government trained hero trying to stop Hulk from tearing the place up. And I agree that they didn't think of him as a one-off character, as a mutant being introduced this close to the return of the X-Men can't be a coincidence.
It's interesting to see that pretty much everything that makes up Wolverine as we know him is here, but hasn't been given the proper polish yet. From his claws not being retractable, and one would have to assume probably part of his gloves rather than internal, to his superhuman "stamina" rather than his healing factor, it's all a little bit off, but a great base to move forward from.
And with all that being said, this was really the Wendigo's comic. You could have taken out Wolverine and Hulk and it still would have made for a greatly compelling story.

  alendor Says:    
  2015-10-28 13:28:18  
  A very underwhelming issue saved a bit by the Wendigo-conclusion. Really didn't like the art for the Hulk vs Wolverine-slugfest.  

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2016-04-06 13:01:02  
  In all my years, I have never read this one before.

I was surprised to see such a compelling conclusion to the Wendigo story arc, with Georges' sacrifice, with even Marie saying his debt wasn't that high. The poor guy. Very noble indeed.

As for Wolverine, it was cool to see his appearance here. I started reading him right after, with Giant Size X-Men #1, and even there his character is changed significantly, and then again once Claremont takes over.

That's one of the great things about reading through the Order though... Seeing the seeds of various characters planted, and then watching them bloom and grow in the fertile imaginations of later writers, some of whom were former fans and readers themselves.

  Russ Says:    
  2017-10-28 22:14:58  
  That was a pretty unexpected and dark ending. Marie's character did kinda take one on the chin, but she did end up with what she wanted in the end. Sometimes you gotta be careful about what you say and do; you can't predict the consequences otherwise.

But that little yellow guy? He can scrap, that's for sure. Maybe he's got a future for Marvel after all! Seriously, yeah Wolverine's character is a little off here but most of what we know is already in place. His background, his fighting skill, and he's been identified as a mutant. I don't know if the plans were already in motion to revive the X-Men were rolling when this story came out, but the seeds were definitely planted as far as Wolverine goes. Just too bad he seemed more cursory to the story than anything.

4 stars. Not the greatest start to a legend, but still pretty good overall.

  Katryn Says:    
  2017-12-24 04:00:06  
  This is one of those great moments in the Order, because you can read it how it would have been at the time, which was really more of a follow up to the Wendigo story from a couple of years ago, and with future knowledge of where Wolverine goes. And really, that's why I'm here at all.  

  Allencthulhu Says:    
  2018-01-03 22:05:52  

Throughout 1974 we've been getting darker stories and not just in the Dracula/Werewolf/Frankenstein/Man-Thing books.

We've had Doctor Strange versus a religious fanatic AND Death.

We've had the tragic story of the Molten Man.

We've had one of the early Thanos sagas.

Pretty much, '74 has been the best year Marvel has had since about '68.

Three stars.

  ignaciotixi Says:    
  2018-01-26 11:32:40  
  First of Wolverine, enough for the five stars  

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Marvel Masterworks: X-Men, Volume 8
This collection includesAvengers #110 (v1), Avengers #111 (v1), Incredible Hulk #180 (v1), Incredible Hulk #172 (v1), Incredible Hulk #181 (v1), Captain America #172 (v1), Captain America #173 (v1), Captain America #174 (v1), Captain America #175 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #23 (v1), Marvel Team-Up #38 (v1), Defenders #15 (v1), Defenders #16 (v1), Giant-Size Fantastic Four #4
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Date User Name Update
   February 12, 2018 TStarnes
   February 12, 2018 TStarnes
   November 26, 2017 TStarnes
   July 12, 2017 fragsel Updated the listing for Wendigo (Georges Baptiste).
   July 12, 2017 fragsel Updated the listing for Wendigo (Paul Cartier).
   July 12, 2017 fragsel Added Wendigo to the issue.
   March 31, 2016 TStarnes Changed comic details.
   July 28, 2015 fragsel Deleted listing of Canadian Armed Forces.
   August 16, 2014 Neskit Added Canadian Armed Forces to the issue.
   August 6, 2014 fragsel Added Canadian Armed Forces to the issue.
   April 30, 2013 TStarnes Changed comic details.
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