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302: Tales of Suspense #65 (v1) [A Story]

" When Titans Clash! "
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Tales of Suspense #65a (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists:
Writers: Stan Lee
Pencilers: Don Heck, Jack Kirby
Inkers: Mickey Demeo
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Letterers: Sam Rosen
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: May 1965
Release Date: February 1965
Story Arc: -
Pages: 12
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 750                 Times Rated: 412
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Strange Tales #134 (v1) [A Story]
Strange Tales #135 (v1) [A Story]
Tales of Suspense #65a (v1)
Tales of Suspense #65b (v1)
X-Men #11 (v1)
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304: X-Men
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Issue Blurb
Iron Man's armor has been stolen! The thief is running around town using his new power to rob banks and only the old Iron Man is around to stop him.
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Main Characters
  Iron Man
Iron Man last appeared in Strange Tales #135a (v1). Iron Man next appears in Avengers #15 (v1).
     
Supporting Characters
  Happy Hogan
Happy Hogan last appeared in Tales of Suspense #64a (v1). Happy Hogan next appears in Avengers #16 (v1).
     
  Pepper Potts
Pepper Potts last appeared in Tales of Suspense #64a (v1). Pepper Potts next appears in Tales of Suspense #66a (v1).
     
Villains
  Weasel Wills
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Weasel Wills in the mainstream continuity.
     
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In "When Titans Clash" Tony Stark realizes that though he loves Pepper Potts, he could never marry her. Deciding to let her have a chance with Happy, he abruptly announces that he is leaving to watch a missile demonstration of his own design. However, in his hurry, Stark forgets his Iron Man suit.

While he is observing the Mangler Missile test, Weasel Wills manages to get access to Stark's Flushing factory. Once inside, he stumbles upon the briefcase which contains Iron Man's armor. Realizing how powerful this would make him, Wills steals the suit and takes off. Wills trains himself with the Iron Man armor and before long, he uses it to steal from banks and commit various crimes around the city. He uses the suit to burrow an underground hideout to store his stolen cash and gems.

Stark finally hears about the news and realizes what must of happened. He returns to Flushing and manages to find his old Iron Man armor, which is far more bulky and not nearly as powerful as the one Wills has stolen. Still, Tony sends a message to Wills on a private frequency telling him to come to the Flushing factory for a showdown. Fearing what that might mean, Wills obliges.

When he arrives, he finds Stark in his old Iron Man armor, and the two begin to battle, old armor versus new armor. Though Wills has the more powerful suit, Stark is better trained in how the armor works and is able to get the upper hand several times. Still, it is not enough, and the sheer power of the new Iron Man suit is turning into too much. But Stark is able to lure Wills into a battle of pure strength, and is eventually able to incapacitate him. As he is being taken away, Wills is so dazed by his recent fight that he claims that he is the real Iron Man, leaving Tony Stark's secret safe in the world.
 
 
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  Webslinger Says:    
  2012-07-28 11:41:10  
  Boring, boring, boring. How uninteresting can Iron Man get?
Cap was just normal.
 
 
 

  Safis Says:    
  2012-08-12 15:47:23  
  Iron Man was good. I never expected to see Old Iron Man vs. New Iron Man, so this was a treat. Also, it was quite a surprised to see his secret identity (sort of) revealed!  
 
 

  specialque Says:    
  2012-10-12 20:12:06  
  The idea of Old Iron Man vs. New Iron Man is great. The way the did it kind of sucked. And the way the story was resolved was insulting in its stupidity.

The Cap story was OK, but I expected more considering the villain.
 
 
 

  minicheddaz Says:    
  2013-02-26 17:22:14  
  argghhh! and it starts with more romantic slushiness! good idea to have an imposter find the armour and battle stark dressed in the old iron man armour. the ending was bad though with the imposter suddenly losing it like that, behaving as though he actually really is iron man. shame. it could have set up an interesting story having the imposter knowing that stark is iron man. ah well..

disappointing first red skull story too. a bit scooby doo with the unmasking. i thought marvel was done with that cliche. i also don't get the secret identity thing either. disappointing both stories. two stars.
 
 
 

  saschavikos Says:    
  2013-03-11 21:27:51  
  Bucky: "think there's any chance of spotting any suspects?"
Cap: "Not sure, son! its not like the Nazis are going to be walking around with GIANT freaking swastikas on their chests!"
 
 
 

  chrys Says:    
  2013-04-08 21:00:50  
  How did the thief find the chestplate in the suitcase when Stark is always wearing it?  
 
 

  leisch Says:    
  2013-08-03 21:10:29  
  Iron Man was an ok filler story, no big moments, no overall series progression.
Cap continues to shine in these 40s retellings.
 
 
 

  Durango55 Says:    
  2014-02-15 12:18:01  
  3 stars
- I liked the old vs new Iron Man story idea in concept, even if the execution was somewhat lacking. Seeing the original armor design next to the the updated design by Ditko shows how much his better his was visually.
- The Captain America stories are leaving me a bit unimpressed. Good Kirby art, and Chic Stone's inking complements it well, but these stories all end up so inconsequental, even with the 1st appearance by the Red Skull. I think multi-part stories would improve things considerably.
 
 
 

  Spider-Borg Says:    
  2014-02-17 17:47:29  
  I didn't know the red skull was just a mask!  
 
 

  CosmicCostello Says:    
  2014-04-18 01:45:08  
  Chrys, I asked the same question. Clearly if the chest plate is in the attaché case Tony Stark is dead. Every appearance after he left Stark Industries so Pepper and Happy could become lovers is a LMD. The real Tony has been dead for years!

No, wait... this whole tale, unknown to we readers, was told by the now (and conveniently) insane Weasel Wills. Hence why everyone acts so strangely the whole tale. (Down to the slacker employee who says "Now that the boss is here we'd better make sure this test flight checks out a-okay." Previously his plan, apparently, was to just slack off the whole time.)
 
 
 

  CosmicCostello Says:    
  2014-04-18 01:48:14  
  Also note that this tale is credited to Stan as writer even though it is simply a representation of Simon and Kirby's Captain America #07. Kinda gives more credence to Jack's claims of who really wrote a lot of Marvel Comics and who just grabbed credit.  
 
 

  marvelcomicslover Says:    
  2014-05-26 13:05:55  
  The Iron Man story almost put me to sleep. I think it was way to early to bring back the original armor.
The Cap story wasn't much better.
 
 
 

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-06-26 20:53:30  
  Just 1 star for Weasel Wills a two-bit hood, but a three-time loser!

Splash - Nice image of the old Iron Man punching the new Iron Man.

Innuendo - Stark's going to a ROCKET factory for a top secret MEN only JUNKet!!!!

Innovation - I think the Mangler Missile is a pretty cool ideal.

Looney Tunes - Funny scene of Weasel walking out the front gate with his case saying "nite"!

Dead Weight - You would of think that one of Stark's employees would of told him about Iron Mans bad behavior. A couple of days had passed!!!

'Nuff Said - "No! I ain't imagining' things! There's two Iron Men here...they're wrecking the place!"-Night Watchman
 
 
 

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-08-02 15:02:30  
  3 stars. Not enough done with either story, but neither were low enough on thevscle for a 2 star like Torch and Giant Man. Too many mistakes and/or holes.  
 
 

  phogbear Says:    
  2014-08-03 07:25:11  
  Stark couldn't find a less isolated/populated area to have the battle? Doesn't Stark's factories take enough damage? Did he clear everyone out of the area?  
 
 

  hawaii Says:    
  2014-08-17 08:28:20  
  Didn't Stark have more armores throughout his factory? When he battled Hawkeye!
And the Captain America story was surprisely good! It was old, but very different from the 60's comics. In a good way.
 
 
 

  MattzLadd Says:    
  2014-08-25 16:35:22  
  The other Avengers are scattered around the country??

Well, hm... let's see - Cap is in New York, Giant Man and the Wasp are in New York, Rick Jones and the Teen Brigade are in New York, and oh look - Thor is in New York also!
 
 
 

  Bramwell Says:    
  2014-09-03 04:34:29  
  1. Men-only junket....this stuff really detracts from the story
2. Good issue...good premise...good battle
3. The ending for the villain was kind of a stretch
4. I have mixed feelings about the Cap issue. I don't like that its set in the past but its a great read and the villain is interesting
5. The ending was very Scooby Doo
 
 
 

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2014-12-03 15:23:09  
  Okay Tony, that was a total dick-move, snapping at Happy like that. Kindness doesn't cost anything.

The best thing about the Cap story was the Red Skull's official Nazi pajamas! And check out that move by Bucky where he spread-eagle kicks those two Nazis in the back of the knees, thereby causing them to buckle backwards, crashing their heads together. Now THAT'S a move!
 
 
 

  Psychopat Says:    
  2015-01-13 12:44:26  
  Wait that was not the real Red Skull?  
 
 

  kungfufan Says:    
  2016-04-12 00:38:45  
  Kinda reminds me of the one where Ant-Man gets his identity stolen, so felt a bit like a recycled idea to me, though I realise they often recycled ideas across titles I guess to get Stan's super ideas across to the widest audiences possible. Also, nice point some commenters have about the chest plate, never occurred to me, and obviously not to Stan either!  
 
 

  RobinHoodMtl Says:    
  2016-10-08 15:46:32  
 
  • That's my line – "The only thing I don't understand is... why didn't Stark use his armor for crime?(Weasel Wills) – Err... Maybe because he's already one of the richest men on the planet, wise guy?

  • I thought the love triangle was dealt with when Stark told Pepper he got engaged. Is Stan giving up this sub-plot? Because the tortured secret lover act is getting old. In all comics.

  • I don't buy that Tony Stark couldn't be more careful and leave his Iron Man suit with no safety device on his suitcase. And have his own initials on it?!

  • And why the hell would this suitcase include a chest plate when he's supposed to wear it at all times?? This makes absolutely no sense!

  • I like the before and after panels of that cabin in the woods.

  • Of course, the villain conveniently turns mad and forgets about Iron Man's identity. Ughh! Stan is taking the easy way out again! Having the villain just shut up and place a Sword of Damocles over Stark's head would have opened a world of possibilities.

  • An old vs. new Iron Man story that was filled with huge missed opportunities. It annoyed me in so many ways that I can only give it 1 star.
 
 
 

  Urgat @ Safis (original post):    
  2016-12-03 06:02:58  
  I also wondered the whole Issue, how they would do it to keep the secret a secret...was a nice twist in the end...no magnet-induced amnesia or mind-wiping or such thinks....just a man going crazy  
 
 

  Urgat @ MattzLadd (original post):    
  2016-12-03 06:06:37  
  And I also think that if an Avenger would turn to crime, the other Avengers would be the first to stop him to keep their reputation intact, wherever they were at that moment  
 
 

  Allencthulhu Says:    
  2017-06-12 10:02:01  
  So, for the NO PRIZE: There's a chest plate in the briefcase because Tony carries a spare in case his normal one gets damaged. He can take the chest plate off for very short periods of time (he's changed it a couple of times already) but he has to ahve a good one ready to go immediately.

Frankly, the arc-reactor in his chest keeping the shrapnel away makes more sense.

Speaking of the film, Iron Man, remember he had his arc reactor ripped from his chest and he lived long enough to get the old one back in. I suspect the chest plate is similar and Tony is just overly dramatic when he worries about dying instantly.
 
 
 

 
 
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Captain America Omnibus, Volume 1
 
This collection includesTales of Suspense #77b (v1), Tales of Suspense #78b (v1), Tales of Suspense #79b (v1), Tales of Suspense #80b (v1), Tales of Suspense #81b (v1), Tales of Suspense #82b (v1), Tales of Suspense #83b (v1), Tales of Suspense #84b (v1), Tales of Suspense #85b (v1), Tales of Suspense #86b (v1), Tales of Suspense #87b (v1), Tales of Suspense #88b (v1), Tales of Suspense #89b (v1), Tales of Suspense #90b (v1), Tales of Suspense #91b (v1), Tales of Suspense #92b (v1), Tales of Suspense #93b (v1), Tales of Suspense #94b (v1), Tales of Suspense #95b (v1), Tales of Suspense #96b (v1), Tales of Suspense #97b (v1), Tales of Suspense #98a (v1), Tales of Suspense #99b (v1), Tales of Suspense #59a (v1), Tales of Suspense #60a (v1), Tales of Suspense #61b (v1), Tales of Suspense #62b (v1), Tales of Suspense #63b (v1), Tales of Suspense #64a (v1), Tales of Suspense #65a (v1), Tales of Suspense #66a (v1), Tales of Suspense #67a (v1), Tales of Suspense #68a (v1), Tales of Suspense #69b (v1), Tales of Suspense #70b (v1), Tales of Suspense #71b (v1), Tales of Suspense #72b (v1), Tales of Suspense #73b (v1), Tales of Suspense #74b (v1), Tales of Suspense #75b (v1), Tales of Suspense #76b (v1)
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