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416: Avengers #23 (v1)

" Once an Avenger... "
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Avengers #23 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: Jack Kirby, John Romita Sr.
Writers: Stan Lee
Pencilers: Don Heck
Inkers: John Romita Sr.
Letterers: Sheri Gail
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: December 1965
Release Date: October 1965
Story Arc: -
Pages: 20
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 709                 Times Rated: 392
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Universes:   Earth-616    Earth-6311  
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Issue Blurb
After Cap leaves the team, the Avengers are left reeling. They must face Kang, who tries to defeat them in order to win the heart of a princess.
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
  Captain America
Captain America last appeared in Avengers #22 (v1). Captain America next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
Hawkeye last appeared in Avengers #22 (v1). Hawkeye next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
Quicksilver last appeared in Avengers #22 (v1). Quicksilver next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
  Scarlet Witch
Scarlet Witch last appeared in Avengers #22 (v1). Scarlet Witch next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
Supporting Characters
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Ravonna in the mainstream continuity. Ravonna next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
Kang last appeared in Fantastic Four Annual #3. Kang next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
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The Avengers (Roster IV)
The Avengers last appeared in Avengers #22 (v1). The Avengers next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
Equipment, Items & Vehicles
Captain America's Shield
Captain America's Shield last appeared in Avengers #22 (v1). Captain America's Shield next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
Hawkeye's Bow
Hawkeye's Bow last appeared in Avengers #22 (v1). Hawkeye's Bow next appears in Avengers #24 (v1).
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Issue Synopsis
In the aftermath of Captain America leaving the team, the Avengers realize their incessant bickering is most likely the reason for his decision. Meanwhile, Steve Rogers gets a job as a training partner for a champion boxer.
In the distant future, Kang the Conqueror has observed these recent events and decides that the timing is perfect for a new attack on the Avengers. He sends a ship that lands on top of the Avengers' Mansion, camouflaged as an additional floor. Alerted that something is happening on the roof, they climb upstairs and find themselves trapped with no possible escape inside a ship that transports them to the future. After they have arrived, Kang demands an audience with Princess Ravonna and announces he wants her to rule the universe at his side, an offer she disdainfully declines.
In the present, Steve Rogers is in the ring training with the champion when he hears the news about the Avengers' disappearance over the radio broadcast. Worried for his former partners, he ends the match by knocking his opponent out with a single punch.
Individually trapped in glass-like containers, the Avengers try to break free, but only the Scarlet Witch is able to shatter the cage. Exhausted by the strain, she still manages to activate the lever that releases her teammates. The Avengers realize they are in the future and try to make an escape, but some form of paralyzing ray make Scarlet Witch and Hawkeye unconscious again while Quicksilver's speed allows him to evade Kang's offensive devices.
Kang gets a message from Captain America, who learned of what happened to the Avengers by using a machine that can see what occurred in the recent past. Challenged by the hero who claims that Kang's victory will not be complete if he can't beat him, the Conqueror decides to bring his foe to the future. With Ravonna's help, Cap lands near Quicksilver, who is delighted to reunite with his ex-partner.
They confront Kang, and are joined by Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch, who recovered from the ray's effect. Ravonna still denies Kang marriage, so his armies move in to destroy the city.
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  Redsvetz Says:    
  2012-10-12 13:50:46  
  Love that cover. Go get 'em, Kang!  

  Robareid Says:    
  2013-04-27 12:58:08  
  Scarlet Witch is looking nastily thin in that first panel  

  Safis Says:    
  2013-04-30 15:36:22  
  I loved the old king's speech to Ravonna. It almost sounds like something out of Shakespeare, only in modern English!  

  leisch Says:    
  2013-08-06 08:19:25  
  Nice to see the new Avengers finally battling a formidable villain.  

  betarayben Says:    
  2013-08-11 15:00:23  
  Don Heck + John Romita Sr. = Magic  

  ultimoastros Says:    
  2013-12-05 20:10:48  
  Good stuff..always enjoy Kang stories!  

  Raistlin903 Says:    
  2013-12-10 15:28:02  
  Oh thank god we get a real bad guy again..... Kang is by far my favorite Avenger bad guy so far........  

  Anonymous Says:    
  2014-04-06 18:35:15  
  Kind bothered me how similar the princess looks to Wanda, but a great issue.  

  marvelcomicslover Says:    
  2014-07-19 17:56:10  
  This seemed a little too long and slightly boring.
I like Kang and all his powers, I just hope one day to learn more about him.
Oh, and how did Cap get to that century or universe or where ever they heck they were..?!?

  arsenal009 @ Redsvetz (original post):    
  2014-07-20 17:19:06  
  Only King Kirby could pull that off!  

  arsenal009 Says:    
  2014-07-20 17:25:14  
  Cool story, especially the cliffhanger.

But the writing was dreadful.

  arsenal009 @ Safis (original post):    
  2014-07-20 17:26:43  
  I wouldn't exactly call the lingo here modern.  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-08-13 21:02:02  
  Good issue, 3 stars. I love Kang, and the cliffhanger. Hated how Cap came to the rescue and the whole king/princess aspect to the story.  

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-08-22 21:49:30  
  4 stars for Kang the Konqueror, and Ravonna the Righteous!!!

Cover Me - Agree with others; that is one Klassic Kirby Kover!!!

Twins - Anyone else notice that one boxing manager looks like a skinnier version of the disguise that Cap wore in the last issue??

In Plain Sight - I like it that Kang disguised his Timeship as a story of a building.

No Prize - But, Iron Man never used a Recreater before....I think Stan's getting it mixed up with Mr. Hyde's Time Reversal Ray.

Time Passages - @marvelcomicslover: Kang brought Cap to the future.

Oldie But A Goodie - Quicksilver got Kang with the ol' look out behind you trick!

'Nuff Said - "Don't tighten up! Go limp! Relax!"-Quicksilver to Scarlet Witch


  MattzLadd Says:    
  2014-09-16 15:44:07  
  I noticed instantly that John Romita Sr. was working on this from the first page - that is just how awesome he is.  

  Bramwell Says:    
  2014-11-05 21:22:05  
  It seems odd that a time-travelling villain from the future is saying that he has to strike NOW...while the conditions are right. It seems he could always travel to any time, at his leisure.  

  CosmicCostello Says:    
  2015-02-25 22:50:35  
  I love Kang and have, for years, wondered what Ravonna's story was. And I'm 100% a "Cap will always be the best leader for the Avengers" guy. So why was this issue so plodding and hard to get through?

Seems like maybe this is a one issue story stretched over two.

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2015-03-13 21:50:21  
  As everyone has noted, John Romita's inks on Heck's pencils are great. Plus we get a little sneak peek (perhaps) of Mary Jane Watson (as Ravonna) on the first panel of the last page.

I find it hard to believe that Cap would be satisfied being a sparring partner to a bunch of stumblebums. Seriously? That's all he aspires to?

I also like panel 3 of the last page, with Hawkeye hanging out up top with his bow.

Didn't get the Omar Khayyam reference though. Read through a few of his works but couldn't figure out which one Stan was referring to.

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2015-03-17 13:43:28  
  One other thing... On Pg9/P4 Wanda utters a rhyming spell while using her hex power. I don't remember seeing that before. It doesn't seem to make sense to me as hers is a mutant power and not an actual magic-based power (I think).

Other than these early issues in the Order, I'm totally unfamiliar with her character. Do the spells continue on through the years?

  quartertwain Says:    
  2015-05-17 04:55:24  
  I'm falling!! I better aim for those two iron pipes sticking out of the ground. All that space between them will absorb the impact. (From Stan Lee's, How to Learn Physics The Marvel Way)  

  quartertwain @ GroovyGolem (original post):    
  2015-05-17 05:37:14  
  One of Khayyam's quatrains reads "The moving finger writes and having writ, Moves on, nor all thy piety and wit, Shall lure it back to cancel half a line, Nor all they tears wash out a word of it." Khayyam had a metaphysical/(teleological maybe) view of existence, in which cause and effect existed simultaneously with one another. In my understanding, it was kind of a Platonic view of the world, in which things observable to us are merely emanations of a greater truth (the ripples on a pond analogy). Given Khayyam's objections to Aristotle, and his focus on Greek thought, I believe that this is the idea to which the quatrain is referring. (I could be totally wrong here, my knowledge is in history, not philosophy.) An entirely fictionalized account of Khayyam's life was released as a movie in 1957. This, I would wager to guess, is the reason for Lee's familiarity which the quote. (Although I can't easily find a copy of the script, so I can't be sure.) Anyways, I like your posts, and I this was something I was wondering myself. I knew of Khayyam, in relation to the 12th century European Renaissance, but little about his poetry. Surprisingly, he was a rather hedonistic dude, which seemed anachronistic to me. Thanks for inspiring me to look this up.  

  GroovyGolem @ quartertwain (original post):    
  2015-05-17 06:36:46  
  Wow, thanks for such an informed and enlightened response!  

  quartertwain @ GroovyGolem (original post):    
  2015-05-17 06:48:28  
  No problem :)  

  edgar987 Says:    
  2015-12-12 09:15:26  
  3 stars for heck and jrsr. Great cover again . And the princess sure did look like mj at the end . 1 star added for the story .  

  Urgat @ Raistlin903 (original post):    
  2016-07-08 04:01:54  
  can't wait for Ultron tho ;-)  

  kungfufan Says:    
  2016-07-12 07:25:25  
  Love the gleam coming from Wanda's eyes pre-hex; DON'T love the "We should have guessed! We're in the far future!" Plus everyone is always so long-winded. This time, it's Kang with his "Now with the flick of a switch, I plunge the entire labyrinth, which contains my victims, into total darkness! Thus for an instance I have deprived them of their use of sight!" Instead of saying, "I'll turn the lights off so they can't see!" Or even better, turning the lights off without saying anything! Though I'm sure if he did, an Avenger would probably remark "He's plunged us all into darkness! In just an instance, we've been deprived of the use of our sight!" But enough whinging. All things considered, I'm accepting this time travel story as my mind makes excuses for the various paradoxes that pop up throughout.  

  kungfufan @ Bramwell (original post):    
  2016-07-12 07:37:40  
  I believe the "now" Kang refers to is the "now" in the Avengers' time, i.e. in the 60s, not Kang's far distant future. If you justify it by assuming Kang, wanting to defeat the Avengers, is slowly going through the Avengers' timeline (like watching a video) and has paused at the point in history he thinks is opportune to strike, and says "now!"  

  Russ Says:    
  2016-09-03 20:15:46  
  I have a little trouble with any stories Kang is in, because of the various paradoxes his visits create. Of all the times in Avengers history, logic would dictate he try his hand against these four, the comparatively weakest lineup they ever had. With that said, I'm finding this story entertaining, in spite of the old "villain trying to marry the maiden to get power" device.

One side note: of all the silly romances Marvel has had through the course of the '60's, the one romance we didn't see, and something I would've liked to see more of, is the odd couple Cap and Wanda.

  RobinHoodMtl Says:    
  2016-12-11 12:03:28  
  • That's my line "How I miss the sight of him working out in our private gymnasium! So confident... so handsome! To me, he was every inch an Avenger!" (Wanda) Wanda, you dirty little voyeur, you!

  • Awesome cover indeed! I remember this was one of the earliest Marvel comic books I got when I was a kid.

  • Wanda looks so much better without that head piece! I wonder when she's gonna drop it.

  • You know you've hit bottom when you find a job as a training partner and feel happy to be useful! I like how Cap is holding his punches during his training sessions with the champion until he hears about the Avengers' disappearance and ends the fight with a single blow!

  • That ship camouflaged as the Avengers Mansion's top floor is a very creative idea!

  • Kang dear, your overall technology may be very advanced, but the flat screen monitors in your control room are so 21st century!

  • Kang's costume would look great of it weren't for his ridiculous purple fisherman's boots!

  • Great story with a seriously dangerous villain. To me, Kang has always been the equivalent of Doctor Doom, but for the Avengers! And yes, the new art team is fantastic! 4 stars!

  dadoodoflow Says:    
  2017-03-14 07:53:12  
  Cap is such a classic man's man. Always seeking out masculine spaces. Too bad a modern writer would most likely make it cheaply homoerotic without the nuance of Sedgwick's homosociality. I like the idea of his comfort with other men being something other than erotic fascination, anxious masculinity, or castration anxiety. It's a space that is often not explored.

This is the best story the current roster has received.

  kungfufan @ dadoodoflow (original post):    
  2018-01-30 00:12:04  
  I am so digging you, dadoodoflow. Totally agree, and I actually wrote a paper on it back in my university years titled "The Modern Samurai". It's a shame when people "see" more than there actually is.  

  dadoodoflow @ kungfufan (original post):    
  2018-03-05 21:28:49  
  Sometimes reading more than is there is productive. I just think homoerotic Cap is boring and ultimately reifying what it originally means to critique. Check out Judith/Jack Halberstam's juggling of "Dude, Where's My Car?" in "The Queer Art of Failure" for a productive over-reading.  

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