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433: Daredevil #12 (v1)

" Sightless, in a Savage Land! "
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Daredevil #12 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: John Romita Sr.
Writers: Stan Lee
Pencilers: John Romita Sr.
Inkers: John Romita Sr.
Letterers: Sam Rosen
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: January 1966
Release Date: November 1965
Story Arc: -
Pages: 20
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 665                 Times Rated: 375
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Amazing Spider-Man #32 (v1)
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Daredevil #12 (v1)
Daredevil #13 (v1)
Daredevil #14 (v1)
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Daredevil #13 (v1)
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Issue Blurb
Matt Murdock takes a leave of absence and goes on a cruise. But a vacation is not to be as Daredevil must come out when the Plunderer attacks.
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
Daredevil last appeared in Daredevil #11 (v1). Daredevil next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
Supporting Characters
  Foggy Nelson
Foggy Nelson last appeared in Daredevil #11 (v1). Foggy Nelson next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
  Karen Page
Karen Page last appeared in Daredevil #11 (v1). Karen Page next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
Ka-Zar last appeared in X-Men #10 (v1). Ka-Zar next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
Zabu last appeared in X-Men #10 (v1). Zabu next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
  The Plunderer
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by The Plunderer in the mainstream continuity. The Plunderer next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
Maa-Gor last appeared in X-Men #10 (v1). Maa-Gor next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Slagg in the mainstream continuity. Slagg next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
Group Appearances
Man-Apes last appeared in X-Men #10 (v1). Man-Apes next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
Swamp Men
Swamp Men last appeared in X-Men #10 (v1). Swamp Men next appears in Tales to Astonish #97a (v1).
Equipment, Items & Vehicles
Daredevil's Billy Club
Daredevil's Billy Club last appeared in Daredevil #11 (v1). Daredevil's Billy Club next appears in Daredevil #13 (v1).
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Issue Review
   October 25, 2012
I found this issue hard to read. I understand on some level Matt leaving his firm, and taking a vacation. That part of the story is fine with me, but from there it gets weird. When Daredevil shows up on a cruise ship, I think that the passenger list might be scrutinized later on to narrow down the possibilities of the true identity of the Man without Fear.

After Daredevil is captured he mentions that the Plunderer is 'power-mad' but he doesn't really do much of anything. He terrorized the cruise ship with threats, but Daredevil even said that the captain didn't take anything. So what's the point. How does waving a gun at someone give you power over anything after the victim leaves the scene and returns to shore, sharing the story of how you didn't take anything, might I add?

The addition of Ka-Zar to the issue was a little out there. We have the Plunderer who is using a lot of technology go to a time when fire was the most advanced form of human ingenuity.

It seems like they were either trying to fill panels, or get Ka-Zar back into the comic world. Either way, it was poorly done.

1 out of 5 stars.
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  Redsvetz Says:    
  2011-10-17 00:00:00  
  Another ludicrous Daredevil, but John Romita definitely provides an upgrade in artwork.  

  Lister Says:    
  2011-11-23 07:52:05  
  Romita's artwork is the only bright spot in this issue. How did this series ever survive?  

  Xythe Says:    
  2011-12-20 07:16:45  
  Daredevil, Pirates, a T-Rex, man eating plants, and a Galleon that transforms into a Submarine. What's not to like?  

  Gram91 Says:    
  2012-06-20 23:57:36  
  What does prehistoric smell like?  

  bigkat5582 Says:    
  2012-07-30 19:07:51  

  Webslinger Says:    
  2012-10-31 15:47:28  
  There is more: swamp men, ape men, an undersea tunnel through half the world, Skull Island and a lunatic desperate to talk to someone all he is capable of.  

  TStarnes Says:    
  2012-11-01 00:58:29  
  @Gram91 I am betting it smells like Dinosaur farts...  

  chrys Says:    
  2012-12-06 12:53:28  
  Strangely enough, this got slightly better once he met Ka-zar - that was the opposite of my expectations.  

  leisch Says:    
  2013-08-06 13:46:20  
  Pirates! Dinosaurs! Apemen! The perfect ingredients for epic adventure. I hope this arc pans out as well as the first issue in it.
The only downer was the splash with its patented Stan Lee romantic melodrama.

  Raistlin903 Says:    
  2013-12-22 13:01:04  
  @chrys - can't agree more........  

  fragsel Says:    
  2013-12-22 13:20:55  
That's when that little "thumb up" button on the right comes in handy...

  scottyjrules Says:    
  2014-05-04 10:40:53  
  After the amazing storylines in Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, Daredevil and Ka-Zar fighting pirates is more than a little underwhelming...  

  marvelcomicslover Says:    
  2014-07-19 18:51:08  
  This was really hard to get through. I didn't find this enjoyable at all.
These DD comics are terrible.

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-08-16 14:47:39  
  I didn't think this was as bad as everyone is saying. I appreciated the transition of Murdock leaving to travel the world to how he got to the Savage Land. Great cliffhanger too. 3 stars.

Remember, when you think you're reading a bad story, think back to the early Torch and Giant Man issues of the order.

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-09-01 16:23:22  
  3 stars for pirates, dinosaurs, and Zabu! Oh my!!!

Memories - When Matt thinks back to Foggy, Karen, and the villains he fought.....no wonder he wants to get the hell outta there!!!

Skull Island - First, Ka-Zar & the Swamp Men act like the island is Ka-Zars. Next, Plunderer acts like it's his and wants to go after the Swamp Men for attacking it!!??

Tough Love - I sure hope Maa-Gor doesn't practice death by unga-bunga!!!

'Nuff Said - "Surprised, my masked hearty?"-Plundererererererererer

  MattzLadd Says:    
  2014-09-20 12:32:04  
  Ah, the brothers Plunder.

One a pirate supervillain, the other a barely literature blonde Tarzan with a sabre-tooth tiger.

  Bramwell Says:    
  2014-11-22 15:38:18  
  This book was a steaming mess of themes but somehow it came together as an enjoyable read. Also the art was pretty good in the second half.  

  VenomousIntent Says:    
  2014-12-10 20:43:10  
  I really liked this issue. It reminded me of a Jules Verne story. Plus, Romita!  

  gumchewspit Says:    
  2014-12-31 13:21:45  
  Page 19 panel 4, world first ochu/otyugh?

I like Stan's pirate settings even less than his circus settings. I was unaware of pirates raiding the rivers and coasts of 1960's New York.

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2015-04-29 16:41:40  
  I was all set to write this one off as filler, and then things got interesting once Daredevil arrived on Skull Island. Call me crazy but I really enjoyed the Ka-Zar segments. When he said that the only thing that could save Daredevil was a herb, I thought "don't let it be a juju plant." And it was! It WAS a juju plant!

So bad it's good. Sort of like Ka-Zar's strangely fluctuating command of the English language. Check out page 8 with the T-Rex... He's practically erudite there, compared to later where's he's all like "Me Ka-Zar! You Matt!"


  GroovyGolem @ MattzLadd (original post):    
  2015-04-29 19:05:39  
  Wha?? They're brothers?!?

[looks up Ka-Zar on Wikipedia]

Hmm... Kevin Plunder.

Well I'll be.

  Vancelot Says:    
  2015-07-14 23:17:36  
  It's hard reading these old Daredevil comics, especially for those of us used to the gritty, dark feel of the Daredevil comics we're used to.  

  ViolentPhlegm Says:    
  2015-07-19 13:53:03  
  I think the fight with the pirates should have moved into the galley just so Romita could draw in a kitchen sink.  

  edgar987 Says:    
  2015-12-13 19:12:18  
  Liked the fact that their were less words.Reminds me of an old Tarzan movie silly but Fun .3 stars for jrsr and quick read.  

  Carlo Says:    
  2016-05-15 22:48:05  
  I find Ka-Zar's way of speaking here incredibly annoying. Especially since it's supposedly a translation of his native tongue, which he's speaking fluently.  

  J-Smack Says:    
  2016-06-18 22:01:48  
  Oh, John Romita. You saved the day in Spider-Man while I was reading through it in my youth, (granted, I really under-appreciated Ditko back then) and now you saved the day with Daredevil. I feel a new age of art coming. Well, a new age 50ish years ago.  

  kungfufan Says:    
  2016-07-22 21:58:45  
  I like how 'Magnets-Attract-People' Stan in effect compares himself to a "science writer's unbridled imagination". *chuckles*

How the hell can Daredevil "sense vegetation" let alone know that said flora is "such as earth has never known for millions of years"???? And I was enjoying the story so much until that line...

Totally love Romita's art!!! A contender for some of the best art in the order so far!

  kungfufan Says:    
  2016-07-22 22:05:11  
  Seeing all your comments, I think you're hating on the story a bit too much, but TBH I was too busy concentrating on how awesome the art was to pay too much attention to the story.  

  Russ Says:    
  2016-09-06 12:50:54  
  Pirates? Really? Well, I should count my blessings; at least they're not from Pittsburgh.

I don't think this story is too bad, actually. We're all probably spoiled, though, as this story arc is immediately following the legendary FF and Spidey arcs we just read in the Order. So I don't blame the haters TOO much.

I brought this up in the comment section for X-Men #10, and I'd like to bring it up here, too, even though this takes the topic sideways. It might be an interesting story for Marvel to bring back the original Golden Age Ka-Zar, who was first published in the mid 1930s in pulp magazines before Timely picked him up. While he was portrayed as nothing more than a Tarzan copy back then, and otherwise wouldn't hold up as a modern character, his real named as published was David Rand. Highly suggesting an Iron Fist connection here.

  wingot Says:    
  2016-10-19 23:40:27  
  The cut to Ka-zar was VERY abrupt, and I feel boring would have been lost by moving it to after Plunder brings up going there (i.e., during their travel time).  

  wingot @ Russ (original post):    
  2016-10-20 01:14:04  
  But then the next story wouldn't have worked! :-P  

  RobinHoodMtl Says:    
  2017-02-05 13:17:35  
  • That's my line "Stronger than mastodon! Stronger than giant boar! Mighty is Ka-Zar! Lord of jungle!" (Ka-Zar) Rinse and repeat!

  • Ah, the sixties! When you could book a cruise just a few hours before the ship's departure!

  • First Marvel collaboration of John Romita and already, we can tell he's a great artist. Well, except maybe for animals. The mouths of Zabu and the T-Rex make them look very silly and that's not good if you want to illustrate terrifying creatures. The poor kitty looks like its jaw is somewhat stuck in a permanent and painful angle.

  • Ka-Zar trying to subdue T-Rex Jr. and the reptile fleeing after he sets it free is way over the top even for the master of the jungle.

  • The editor's note apologizing for the poor dialogue cracked me up.

  • How can Daredevil recognize prehistoric smell if he's never been there? Smell is the sense which is associated the most to memory.

  • How come the other pirates know Zabu's name? Is it wearing a dog tag or something?

  • I wonder if this carnivorous plant can sing "Feed me Seymore"?

  • The Swamp-Men's presence in this story was pretty pointless, come to think of it. So was the attack of the cruise-ship, since the Plunderer admits he has no need for wealth.

  • Call me crazy, but I kinda had fun with this story, is spite of its many, many flaws. I had to remove 1 star for the endless and boring love triangle, Foggy's less than loyal thought bubbles and the plot's consistent inconsistencies, so 3 stars.

  JonahBlack Says:    
  2017-04-05 11:12:20  
  I'd finally given up on Daredevil, and pledged to only do the 'Essential' issues, and, of course, the very next arc contains an Essential.

This issue was awful. 1 Star.

  StrictSnow Says:    
  2017-04-30 23:11:54  
  This may seem like the start to a soap opera but wait until you see page three!

You mean where he's getting dressed for almost the entire page?

Well... It had to end somewhere. You can't have a fantastic string of Spidey and FF without having to go back and read some silly Daredevil issues. Nowhere near as bad as some of you are saying but still doesn't hold a candle to any Spider-Man issue thus far or the contemporary issues of FF.

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Essential Daredevil, Volume 1
This collection includes Daredevil #1 (v1), Daredevil #2 (v1), Daredevil #3 (v1), Daredevil #4 (v1), Daredevil #5 (v1), Daredevil #6 (v1), Daredevil #7 (v1), Daredevil #8 (v1), Daredevil #9 (v1), Daredevil #10 (v1), Daredevil #11 (v1), Daredevil #12 (v1), Daredevil #13 (v1), Daredevil #14 (v1), Daredevil #16 (v1), Daredevil #17 (v1), Daredevil #18 (v1), Daredevil #19 (v1), Daredevil #20 (v1), Daredevil #21 (v1), Daredevil #22 (v1), Daredevil #23 (v1), Daredevil #24 (v1), Daredevil #25 (v1), Daredevil #15 (v1)
Marvel Masterworks: Daredevil, Volume 2
This collection includes Daredevil #12 (v1), Daredevil #13 (v1), Daredevil #14 (v1), Daredevil #15 (v1), Daredevil #16 (v1), Daredevil #17 (v1), Daredevil #18 (v1), Daredevil #19 (v1), Daredevil #20 (v1), Daredevil #21 (v1)
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   November 22, 2014 fragsel Added Man-Apes to the issue.
   November 22, 2014 fragsel Added Swamp Men to the issue.
   September 22, 2014 fragsel Added Slagg to the issue.
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