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473: Tales to Astonish #80 (v1) [A Story]

" To the Death! "
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Tales to Astonish #80a (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: Bill Everett, Gene Colan
Writers: Stan Lee
Pencilers: Gene Colan
Inkers: Dick Ayers
Letterers: Artie Simek
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: June 1966
Release Date: March 1966
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Pages: 12
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 598                 Times Rated: 342
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Issue Blurb
Sub Mariner faces the mighty Behemoth and Warlord Krang.
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
  The Sub-Mariner
The Sub-Mariner last appeared in Tales to Astonish #79a (v1). The Sub-Mariner next appears in Tales to Astonish #81a (v1).
Supporting Characters
Dorma last appeared in Tales to Astonish #79a (v1). Dorma next appears in Tales to Astonish #81a (v1).
  Puppet Master
Puppet Master last appeared in Tales to Astonish #79a (v1). Puppet Master next appears in X-Men #27 (v1).
  Lord Vashti
Lord Vashti last appeared in Tales to Astonish #79a (v1). Lord Vashti next appears in Tales to Astonish #81a (v1).
Krang last appeared in Tales to Astonish #79a (v1). Krang next appears in Tales to Astonish #81a (v1).
Behemoth last appeared in Tales to Astonish #79a (v1).
Group Appearances
Atlanteans last appeared in Tales to Astonish #79a (v1). Atlanteans next appears in Tales to Astonish #81a (v1).
Equipment, Items & Vehicles
Psychic Clay
Psychic Clay last appeared in Tales to Astonish #79a (v1). Psychic Clay next appears in X-Men #27 (v1).
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Issue Review
   October 1, 2012
This issue was about par for the course for both Sub-Mariner and the Hulk, though I was slightly disappointed by the former.

In the first portion of the issue we see Namor engaging in battle with the Behemoth. This has been built up for several issues now. Namor doubted that he could best the beast, as he was created to be invincible against any foe. Then when the two begin fighting, Namor is very confident for someone who lacked confidence at the idea of the Behemoth, maybe he just does well under pressure. The worst part about this, is they cheapened the fight by having the Behemoth controlled by Krang, and Namor won with a simple whirlpool. It was barely a real fight between the Sub-Mariner and the ‘most terrifying beast to every live under the sea’.
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  Webslinger Says:    
  2012-11-22 21:25:49  
  I guess those are glasses, but did you like this thing?? I really hope I don't wake up with Octo whatever in my dreams!  

  Robareid Says:    
  2013-06-19 11:58:03  
  I liked the idea of all these underground races interacting, but it was poorly executed  

  leisch Says:    
  2013-08-07 12:48:04  
  Really, are we going through the whole "marry me and I'll spare your real love" BS? That stuff went out with tying maidens to the ralroad track. Oh, Stan!

Nice Hulk story. Now they just need to bring in Kala.
Did Mole Man's minions talk before? Maybe they just didn't have anything to say.

  Raistlin903 Says:    
  2014-01-06 17:55:33  
  I hate when the only reason someone follows thru and makes a dumb decision is cause they don't want to give the other person 2 seconds to spit out what they have to say, but instead go on for panel after panel about how they have no time to listen....... a lot of misunderstandings in the marvel world would never have happened........  

  metasynthie Says:    
  2014-06-19 08:07:17  
  Namor uses the sea-monster equivalent of hair-pulling and a convenient 1000-year-old bed of underwater quicksand to dispose of the Behemoth, who "disappears from human sight... forever!" Whenever I read these assurances that a villain is gone for good, I get the feeling that someone at Marvel decided after a few issues that the character was such a bad idea that even readers needed to be told "don't worry, this one's not coming back." If only someone had excused Fred Myers or Melvin Potter this way.
The Hulk gets even more practice being transported elsewhere by mysterious beams, since it would take way more panels to actually convince or lure the Hulk into leaving his current moping cave. The Mole People, finally able to appear in a comic without a whole team of heroes fighting for speech bubble space, prove that they're not just mute and mindless. Betty gets a tip-off that the Hulk might really be Bruce since he shows his first signs of REALLY disliking the name Banner.

  specialque Says:    
  2014-08-06 21:37:42  
  What happened to Wasp? Did she die at sea?  

  marvelcomicslover Says:    
  2014-08-10 23:05:27  
  Namor wasn't that bad...decent art, decent story.
Hulk story was pretty entertaining even though it had Mole Man in it.

  ThunderZtorm @ specialque (original post):    
  2014-08-12 15:40:52  
  You'll see. In Avengers #26 (but not before that).  

  skerit Says:    
  2014-08-19 16:50:50  
  I thought Namor was wearing some kind of bra on page 8, but it was just the result of some unflattering shadows.  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-08-20 19:42:57  
  Quicksand. really? In the ocean?! god damnit Stan.

Also, when the Puppet Master last controlled Namor, he attempted to control an octopus that was attacking him as to save his life... But alas he couldn't because it was a brainless beast. Fast forward to now... The Puppet Master can all of a sudden control brainless beasts. 2 stars... Should give it 1 but it's not Torch/Giant-Douche bad.

The Hulk was pretty good again. I'm pleasantly surprised by how good the resurgence of the Hulk has been. 3 stars.

I guess 3 stars overall.

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-09-18 19:00:50  
  Just 1 star for the bashful Behemoth!

Comics Code - Good to see that Dorma finally put some pants on!

Gated Community - Why bother with iron gates when you can swim over them!!

Muppets - @TheAmazingGatorMan: The Behemoth is a android, and the Puppet Master has been shown to be able to control them in the past.

'Nuff Said - "Give me that weapon, woman! Krang is in command now!"-Warlord Krang

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-09-18 19:20:00  
  2 stars for the chaos at the center of the Earth!!

To Serve Man - I agree with comments above. I think this is the first time that the Moloids talk. Also, on page 4, panel 4 the Moloid is in blackface!

Octo-Mom - I wonder if this is where Pixar got the idea for the Omnidroid in the Incredibles?

'Nuff Said - "AHH! He comes--!"-Mole Man

  MattzLadd Says:    
  2014-09-27 09:29:51  
  Quagmire of Doom, eh? Giggity.  

  g2thet Says:    
  2015-06-03 01:56:13  
  Tyrannus kind of reminded me of Freddy Krueger.  

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2015-06-07 20:00:57  
  Sheesh, I'm getting tired of all of these huge build-ups, only to have them disposed of within a few pages.

It still bothers me in the Namor stories how they show the Atlanteans all just walking around, or worse, running around at the bottom of the ocean floor. At least when Namor was fighting the Behemoth, he was swimming. That makes way more sense.

  kungfufan Says:    
  2016-09-03 00:11:32  
  P4P1, the Puppet Master's posture: lol! I can imagine him chewing his nails nervously!
I'm glad Namor used "as though they were made of seaweed" instead of cardboard, which would be a fairly foreign - and pointless - material to a deep sea dweller.
Behemoth didn't get an "appears next in..."? Too bad, he was ok as mindless beast-type villains go.

  Urgat @ kungfufan (original post):    
  2017-01-15 06:53:21  
  I thought exactly the same about the seawees<->cardboard exchange, but gave the credit to Stan to have thought about that little detail :-)  

  Urgat Says:    
  2017-01-15 06:54:32  
  hmmm.... with the upcoming Event "Monsters Unleashed" (early 2017)...will we be seeing the return of the long forgotten Behemoth ?  

  RobinHoodMtl Says:    
  2017-02-11 12:54:28  
  • That's my line – "It is... the Lady Dorma, Majesty! She has fled the realm... with the escaped Warlord Krang! They are... about to be wed!" (Vashti) – The poor old man transmitted the information he was given. Good job, Dorma! Now it looks as though you deliberately left Namor for Krang!

  • Nice touch that they did not forget to give Krang a helmet to breathe on land this time! (...'coz they forgot about this detail in last issue!)

  • I also love that Lady Dorma is depicted as a courageous and resourceful woman in this arc, instead of the two-faced, emotional disaster that she was in her first Silver Age appearances.

  • The look on the Behemoth's face when he gets electrocuted is cartoony but fun! Also funny is his fuming puppet right after!

  • At least, we're now getting somewhere. No matter how disconnected this arc was in the beginning, the storyline is still compelling. And the Colan-Ayers duo was not bad at all so 4 stars.

  JonahBlack Says:    
  2017-04-24 10:34:47  
  I guess we can add quicksand to the list of things Stan has no idea how they work?

When I read the first Namor arc, I liked it quite a bit, and had to ask myself why this run has a bad reputation. I suppose *this* arc answers that question.

  Allencthulhu Says:    
  2017-06-27 23:08:47  
  I have given a new name to Behemoth. From now on he shall be known as "Mr. Bubbles"!  

  philvt101 Says:    
  2018-01-02 11:36:00  
  How in the hell did Krang get from the Puppet Master's house (in New York?) all the way to the gates of Atlantis in the time it took Namor to whip up a completely ridiculous whirlpool?

And have enough time left to shoot a guard, sneak up behind Dorma, convince her to marry him and give her time to relay the news to Vashti?

  arsenal009 Says:    
  2018-04-16 02:06:23  
  Behemoth looks to cute to be a Villain.  

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Marvel Masterworks: Sub-Mariner, Volume 1
This collection includes Tales to Astonish #70a (v1), Tales to Astonish #71a (v1), Tales to Astonish #75a (v1), Tales to Astonish #76a (v1), Tales to Astonish #80a (v1), Tales to Astonish #82a (v1), Tales to Astonish #83a (v1), Tales to Astonish #84a (v1), Tales to Astonish #85a (v1), Tales to Astonish #86a (v1)
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Date User Name Update
   January 31, 2018 TStarnes Added Psychic Clay listing.
   January 31, 2018 TStarnes
   January 31, 2018 TStarnes
   January 9, 2018 Urgat
   November 24, 2017 TStarnes
   July 20, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Moloids.
   July 20, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Rick Jones.
   July 20, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Hulk.
   July 20, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Glenn Talbot.
   July 20, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Tyrannus.
   July 20, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Mole Man.
   July 20, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Betty Ross.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Added Creator Listing.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Changed comic details.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Moved this issue.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Moved this issue.
   July 1, 2014 TStarnes Moved this issue.
   November 20, 2013 fragsel Added Atlanteans to the issue.
   May 10, 2013 fragsel Added Moloids to the issue.
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