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482: Tales to Astonish #82 (v1) [A Story]

" The Power of Iron Man! "
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Tales to Astonish #82a (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: Jack Kirby, Dick Ayers
Writers: Roy Thomas, Stan Lee
Pencilers: Gene Colan, Jack Kirby
Inkers: Dick Ayers
Letterers: Artie Simek
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: August 1966
Release Date: May 1966
Story Arc: -
Pages: 12
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 610                 Times Rated: 350
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Iron Man fights his battle with Namor to the finish.
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
  The Sub-Mariner
The Sub-Mariner last appeared in Tales of Suspense #80a (v1). The Sub-Mariner next appears in Tales to Astonish #83a (v1).
Supporting Characters
  Iron Man
Iron Man last appeared in Tales of Suspense #80a (v1). Iron Man next appears in Tales of Suspense #81a (v1).
  Pepper Potts
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Pepper Potts last appeared in Tales of Suspense #80a (v1). Pepper Potts next appears in Tales of Suspense #82a (v1). This is a cameo appearance.
Group Appearances
NYPD last appeared in Tales of Suspense #80a (v1). NYPD next appears in Tales to Astonish #83a (v1).
Stark Industries
Stark Industries last appeared in Tales of Suspense #79a (v1). Stark Industries next appears in Tales of Suspense #85a (v1).
Equipment, Items & Vehicles
Iron Man Armor, Model 3
Iron Man Armor, Model 3 last appeared in Tales of Suspense #80a (v1). Iron Man Armor, Model 3 next appears in Tales of Suspense #81a (v1).
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  Neskit Says:    
  2012-01-23 12:32:06  
  I like how these are jumping between the Iron man and Sub Mariner comics.  

  poj-poj Says:    
  2012-05-23 11:44:59  
  "but, he can't know that i've donned a new suit of armor".. no.. becuase he is so fightingblind that he can't see that all the damage the old suit had have disapered?  

  leisch Says:    
  2013-08-07 14:21:09  
  Boomerang is just a silly waste of panels.

I still haven't figured why Namor is attacking Iron Man when he should have gone after Krang and Dorma.

  saschavikos Says:    
  2013-08-16 19:16:57  
  I know he isn't a twinkle in anyone's eye yet, but I like to think that cop named Logan in this comic is Wolverine.  

  Raistlin903 Says:    
  2014-01-06 18:14:59  
  apparently we haven't seen Namor get in a fight with a superhero for no reason in a while so Stan thought he had to fix that........  

  Anonymous Says:    
  2014-04-19 14:54:54  
  I like seeing Iron Man's and Namor's stories blend together, even if it is a little rough.  

  metasynthie Says:    
  2014-06-19 11:51:12  
  Jack gets accused of not knowing who the Sub-Mariner is, but still manages to save a multi-page slugfest from being visually boring with his usual exaggerated dynamism, and a strange way of having Tony's eyes constantly visible inside his visor slits... not to mention having him fly in what looks like a seated position. Butt-rockets?
Tony is strangely understanding of an underwater prince who's basically on a meaningless life-endangering rampage because he thinks he got dumped.
Hulk has the typical misfortune to rematerialize inside one of the Earth-616 southwest's many missile testing ranges. Boomerang has changed the color of his outfit so that it's even more garish than before: purple, white, and red! He reveals that he can clump his washers together into a GROUP OF SEVEN WASHERS, plus they're magnetic! Refrigerator poetry everywhere, beware.

  marvelcomicslover Says:    
  2014-08-10 23:38:13  
  Iron Man story was the first true crossover in Marvel I think. This was kind of boring though...just a long fight. I did like his call at the end, curious to see what happens with that.
It was kind of funny watching the Boomerang try to beat the Hulk...silliness.

  ThunderZtorm Says:    
  2014-08-14 01:40:11  
  First ever crossover in comic book history (they claim).. A taste of things to come for sure.  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-08-22 19:56:21  
  Subby: damn good issue. This was one epic battle I wouldn't have wanted to miss... Plus the cliffhanger... Finally! 4 stars

Hulk: also a pretty damn good issue. The Boomerang is lame as trout flavored yogurt, but the story is good. 3 stars.

Since I can't rate this 3.5 stars, I'll round up. 4 stars overall.

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-09-28 19:49:49  
  2 stars for Fish-Face vs. Rust Bucket!!!

Splash - She's not listed, but Pepper makes an appearance on the 1st page.

Night & Day - @metasynthie: I agree about the art. You can definitely tell the difference between Gene & Jack. Kirby knocks it out of the park on the fight scenes!!

Energo-Grip - I hope Stark has these stationed in all of his plants! Good for all those darn untimely energy drains!!

Code Blue - MANUAL HOWIZTERS!!! Dammit!!! I should of been a cop!!!

Hotline - That phone that Stark is using on the last panel reminds of the large phone gag in the movie "Top Secret"!

'Nuff Said - "Why do you grip that apparatus so resolutely?"-Namor

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-09-28 20:20:24  
  1 star for the Boomerang...who should've stayed a secret!

Thunderbolt - I do like Ross chewing out Talbot and that Jones boy!

Mixup - Hmmm...to me it seems like Number Seven got gassed; not Number Five. Check from where they're standing, and their spoken concerns...??

Softball - @metasynthie: Maybe, Boomer changed his costume to impress the Hulk!? Did you notice that he now keeps his boomerang on his....crotch!!! Also, how did his magnetized washers stick to the Hulk....magnetic personality, perhaps???

'Nuff Said - "His arms--so huge--and brutal--but yet, so strangely gentle--!"-Betty

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2015-06-17 19:02:16  
  The switch to Kirby's art from Colan's was like when Dorothy steps out of her house into Oz. Totally different style. But look at the fingers and toes... those are Kirby fingers and toes for sure.

I was surprised that for much of the battle, Iron Man had the upper hand, in Sub Mariner's own magazine!

Roy Thomas didn't *quite* nail Namor's speech mannerisms though... close, but not quite "regal" enough (e.g. Namor would NEVER refer to his wings as "tiny"). A few more lessons from Stan will set him on the right path, I'm sure!

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2015-06-17 19:11:47  
  @Locust75: It wasn't until you mentioned it that I realized Boomerang keeps his boomerang on his crotch!

More like BoomerWANG! Yuk yuk.

  Big Frank T Says:    
  2015-11-21 18:25:37  
  Judo strikes again! Good thing no Avengers opponents have ever heard of this mysterious art  

  kungfufan Says:    
  2016-10-07 01:05:52  
  I wonder, did they add the SHIELD armoury just to keep King Kirby happy or alternatively as a way to explain the complex machinery Kirby was illustrating here? If Gene hadn't fallen ill, would SHIELD equipment be featured at all in this issue?
Ooo, no prize! Mention on page 6 of Namor not knowing Judo, though he used it against a giant seaweed monster previously! Unless we justify... Namor DOES know, but still he wasn't expecting Iron Man to use it???

  Urgat Says:    
  2017-01-18 05:20:17  
  First "crossover" YAY!!!! more pls...give. me. more.
Could have been a little more story than just a long fight (as mentioned above already) but other than that....MORE !!!

  dadoodoflow Says:    
  2017-03-17 12:11:10  
  Five stars for nostalgia! I remember reading this sitting on the edge of my bed in the one bedroom apartment my mom and I lived in and being mesmerized by this fight. I would endlessly trace and copy Kirby's artwork, especially page 3, panel 1. It was definite shift in the things I loved, how I thought about them and I remember it distinctly.  

  JonahBlack Says:    
  2017-04-27 11:43:55  
  The first page notes that Kirby took over because Colan was sick. You can kind of tell that he was rushed. I wonder if the pages were late because of this, because the inking seems sloppy, too.

Roy Thomas seems to do fewer pointless thought bubbles as compared with Stan Lee, and they bubbles are less expository and more stream of thought, which is nice.

  Shioxus Says:    
  2017-05-16 05:17:22  
  Sorry guys, but I like Gene Colan's art a lot more than I like ol' King Kirby's. I found my self resisting the urge to skip this one after being treated to Colan's art. Ah well, I still like Namor's characterization enough to stick around.  

  RobinHoodMtl Says:    
  2018-01-17 16:03:03  
  • That's my line – "But, he can't know that I've donned a new suit of armor..." (Iron Man) – Well in fact, I'm quite positive anyone could. The other one was in shreds! Yet, once again, Sub-Mariner doesn't see it coming, which is a bit out of character. I always figured Namor was more perspicacious than that!

  • They had to change the artist after a few pages... and you can tell the difference right away. Kirby takes the fight inside the factory where he can draw tons of machines, with which he shines the most. But given that we were spoiled by Colan's outstanding art in the last issues, even King Kirby is no match anymore and I was left disappointed.

  • There has been at least one other cross-over in Marvel/Timely Comics but it occurred in the Golden Age. Interestingly, that story also involved the Sub-Mariner who was then fighting the original Human Torch in Marvel Mystery Comics and Human Torch Comics, if I remember well. And I think that it was also the first mini-arc in Marvel Universe.

  • I thought that Namor knew about judo. At least he did in the Golden Age, but along with everything else, he forgot all about it right before FF#4. And kungfufan is right. He did use it himself not too long ago. It appears that heroes like to assume their opponents never know about this or that martial art.

  • I can't say I was thrilled by this conclusion, which was a long and uneventful fight. 3 stars, and I'm being generous. Boy, do I miss Happy!


  kungfufan @ RobinHoodMtl (original post):    
  2018-01-18 23:38:43  
  "This or that martial art"... Don't kid yourself. 95% of the time it's Judo. None of these super heroes seem to have any knowledge of any of the other martial arts! My memory's rusty but I'm inclined to think that at this point in the order even the Mandarin's expertise is Japanese rather than Chinese.  

  RobinHoodMtl @ kungfufan (original post):    
  2018-01-19 13:05:55  
  I remember some hero using Jiu Jitsu once or twice so far, and karate being used while they incorrectly called it judo. That's why I used the generic term martial arts, but you're right, they say it's judo most of the times.  

  chrisWhite Says:    
  2018-01-29 00:39:26  
  I'm sure it never occurred to Stan that having the guy who's spent every other page of the last couple issues searching helplessly for an outlet probably wouldn't think his power is constant while he just needs to wait Namor out As he loses energy away from the water,

While this has been fun it feels like empty calories, superfluous and forgettable.

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Marvel Masterworks: Sub-Mariner, Volume 1
This collection includes Tales to Astonish #70a (v1), Tales to Astonish #71a (v1), Tales to Astonish #75a (v1), Tales to Astonish #76a (v1), Tales to Astonish #80a (v1), Tales to Astonish #82a (v1), Tales to Astonish #83a (v1), Tales to Astonish #84a (v1), Tales to Astonish #85a (v1), Tales to Astonish #86a (v1)
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   January 31, 2018 TStarnes Added Iron Man Armor, Model 3 listing.
   January 31, 2018 TStarnes
   January 19, 2018 RobinHoodMtl Added NYPD to the issue.
   November 24, 2017 TStarnes
   May 17, 2017 fragsel Added Pepper Potts to the issue.
   May 17, 2017 fragsel Added Stark Industries to the issue.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Added Creator Listing.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Secret Empire.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Boomerang.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Betty Ross.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Rick Jones.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Glenn Talbot.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Thunderbolt Ross.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Deleted listing of Hulk.
   July 13, 2015 TStarnes Changed comic details.
   July 12, 2013 TStarnes Updated the listing for Secret Empire.
   May 13, 2013 TStarnes Added Creator Listing.
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