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499: Tales to Astonish #86 (v1) [A Story]

" The Wrath of Warlord Krang! "
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Tales to Astonish #86a (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: Bill Everett, Gene Colan
Writers: Stan Lee
Pencilers: Jerry Grandenetti
Inkers: Bill Everett
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Letterers: Artie Simek
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: December 1966
Release Date: September 1966
Story Arc: -
Pages: 12
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 569                 Times Rated: 334
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Tales to Astonish #84b (v1)
Tales to Astonish #85a (v1)
Tales to Astonish #86a (v1)
Tales to Astonish #87a (v1)
Journey into Mystery #117b (v1)
497: Tales to Ast...
#84b (v1)
498: Tales to Ast...
#85a (v1)
 
500: Tales to Ast...
#87a (v1)
501: Journey into...
#117b (v1)
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Tales to Astonish #86a (v1)
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Tales to Astonish #87a (v1)
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Tales to Astonish #85a (v1)
 
Tales to Astonish #87a (v1)
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With his faculties returning, Namor renews his quest to locate Krang and Dorma. Meanwhile, Krang unleashes a devastating tidal attack on NYC and it looks like Subby is to blame.
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Character Appearances
 
Main Characters
  The Sub-Mariner
The Sub-Mariner last appeared in Tales to Astonish #85a (v1). The Sub-Mariner next appears in Tales to Astonish #87a (v1).
     
  Dorma
Dorma last appeared in Tales to Astonish #85a (v1). Dorma next appears in Tales to Astonish #87a (v1).
     
Villains
  Krang
Krang last appeared in Tales to Astonish #85a (v1). Krang next appears in Tales to Astonish #87a (v1).
     
 
Group Appearances
Atlanteans
Atlanteans last appeared in Tales to Astonish #85a (v1). Atlanteans next appears in Tales to Astonish #87a (v1).
   
     
NYPD
NYPD last appeared in Tales to Astonish #84b (v1). NYPD next appears in Tales of Suspense #81a (v1).
   
     
United States Armed Forces
United States Armed Forces last appeared in Tales to Astonish #83b (v1). United States Armed Forces next appears in Tales of Suspense #81a (v1).
   
     
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  andyzh Says:    
  2012-07-20 18:01:58  
  don't remember where, but the tsunami idea was already used  
 
 

  Shark Says:    
  2012-09-23 16:26:30  
  The two stories are a bit confusing at this point, like they should be happening at the same time, but it's like they don't interfere with each other. A tsunami would definitely be one interference...  
 
 

  leisch Says:    
  2013-08-11 17:41:40  
  Namor's adventures seem to be stuck in neutral at this point. We need to get beyond Krang as the villain, beyond Krang thinking Nampor's dead every other issue, beyond Namor thinking Dorma is dead every other issue. They're getting very monotonous.
Hulk, meanwhile, goes from one titanic battle to another. And Boomerang has some huge delusions of grandeur. He seems more like one of Daredevil's villainous mopes than a challenge for the Hulk.
 
 
 

  Raistlin903 Says:    
  2014-01-14 16:50:25  
  So evryone else is scared of the Hulk but not Boomarang...... for a crappy villian, he has some big cahooney's........  
 
 

  duncanm Says:    
  2014-02-10 20:57:55  
  Really Dorma? Stop before any lives have been lost? I tidal wave like that in New York would have killed thousands at least, probably millions.

Really Namor? The stupid humans think you did it because of their fear? Not because you're constantly attacking them?

Really Bruce? You create the world most sophisticated missile, and it doesn't even require any tools to change it's guidance in flight? Just pull out some wires and stick them somewhere else?

Really Leader? Create a humanoid specifically to defeat the Hulk, but never activate it, and thus get killed by the Hulk?

Really General Ross? You find a human weapon created by a supervillian, designed to destroy the Hulk, and you just start it up, because how could that go wrong?

Really Hulk? Smash? I got nothing. But why is everyone so stupid this ish?
 
 
 

  dpaone Says:    
  2014-04-17 15:01:56  
  All good points Duncan. The last 2 issues have been a painfully slow read for me. I started reading Hulk during Peter David's run on the title and these early issues are a bit dull for me.  
 
 

  scottyjrules Says:    
  2014-06-07 21:59:58  
  It's established that the Namor and Hulk stories are happening concurrently, so why was there no flood in the Hulk story?  
 
 

  scottyjrules Says:    
  2014-06-07 22:01:43  
  Also...I thought the Blob ate the Wasp when NYC got hit with a tidal wave...  
 
 

  TaoTaomona Says:    
  2014-07-21 22:00:53  
  Boomerang just keeps coming back. Why?  
 
 

  specialque Says:    
  2014-08-17 09:27:57  
  If an evil genius created an all-powerful robot and you decide to turn it on, you probably don't deserve to live.  
 
 

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-08-28 13:11:41  
  At some point, the Subby comics need to stop being all build up and include some action. 3 stars, for some reason, the Hulk entertained me enough to not have earned 2 stars.  
 
 

  TheAmazingGatorMan @ TaoTaomona (original post):    
  2014-08-28 13:15:42  
  To make retrieving them easier for the aborigine hunters who use them. :-D  
 
 

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-11-02 14:07:43  
  Just 1 star for Krang catching a wave in the Big Apple!!!

Credit Due - One of DC Alumni Jerry Grandenettis few works for Marvel.

'Nuff Said - "The surface men have caught us!! And, I'm glad--do you hear?? Glad!!"-Lady Dorma
 
 
 

  g2thet Says:    
  2015-06-12 16:46:54  
  I agree that there should have been more interaction with the two stories. A lot of lost potential for an even better, interconnected story.
3 Stars
 
 
 

  Vancelot Says:    
  2015-07-17 11:27:51  
  The Hulk continues to be fantastic, so 3 stars. Namor is pretty dull.  
 
 

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2015-07-25 20:01:00  
  I liked the Namor story. If nothing else, it was way better than last issue. The tidal wave was pretty awe-inspiring, and at least in the first few panels there seemed to be some real damage. I don't think we've seen destruction of that magnitude in the Order yet, so it stood out for me.

Granted, it seems like by the end of the story, everything has been cleared and repaired. But the ending had a decent cliffhanger.
 
 
 

  Aldous Says:    
  2016-03-27 22:07:35  
  "A mysterious informant told us we should blow something up? Well don't just stand there, fire!"  
 
 

  Russ Says:    
  2016-09-17 18:03:02  
  The Namor arc is finally picking up some steam and moving forward. It's taken way too long at this point.

And I don't know if I'm giving away spoilers here, but wasn't there a tidal wave attack on New York initiated by Namor just before America's entry into World War II? I know there was one depicted in the excellent retcon series Marvel Project, issue #6, but is there a story on it published in the Golden Age? I haven't started the Golden Age order yet.
 
 
 

  kungfufan @ GroovyGolem (original post):    
  2016-11-04 00:35:30  
  Depends where you start. Compare the tidal waves of yore (1940s Subby)... Awe-inspiring damage that is conveniently all patched up by the Silver Age.  
 
 

  kungfufan @ Russ (original post):    
  2016-11-04 00:38:29  
  Yes. Save yourself some time (and agony) and read essentials Golden Age only.  
 
 

  chademe Says:    
  2017-04-19 00:44:43  
  I think it's odd how Namor goes on and on about how he loved Dorma most of all, when it seems not that long ago he was blowing her off in favor of Sue Richards. Also, when has he ever shown patience for anything? It's completely out of character for him to be forgiving to mankind and try to help them despite how they're treating him. He's usually a "throw punches first and maybe ask questions later" kind of guy.  
 
 

  JonahBlack Says:    
  2017-05-01 06:24:15  
  Ah, who doesn't recall fondly the thrill of hearing the chimes of the Exposition Truck on a hot Summer day...  
 
 

  StrictSnow Says:    
  2017-07-24 02:51:20  
  Please don't tell me we're making headway on Namor's story. I thought he was just gonna wander NYC until 2012 AD.  
 
 

  mvaughn16 Says:    
  2017-11-29 18:14:09  
  Bill Everett really had a thing for hurling title waves at NYC. If the Comics Code Authority wasn't around, we all know there wouldn't be any of this "Thank goodness nobody was hurt" crap.

Golden Age Everett had visages of Death hovering over the city cackling at the helpless, drowning New Yorkers while Hitler high-five'd Mussolini. And people though the Blob eating the Wasp was edgy...
 
 
 

  Wolverstone Says:    
  2017-12-10 21:41:18  
  Loudspeaker truck: We've captured Warlord Krang and Lady Dorma!
Namor: They can only mean Krang and Dorma!

A shocking deduction from the Avenging Son.
 
 
 

  RobinHoodMtl Says:    
  2018-03-24 21:44:05  
 
  • That's my line "What? You profane my princely person with your clutching hands?!!" (Princely Namor) This never gets old!

  • Darn! It seems Colan has left Sub-Mariner for good. He was one of the main reasons I liked the series because he could make a really bad story more bearable. Well, Grandenetti was not bad and this is the only thing he'll ever do with Marvel.

  • A catastrophic tidal wave higher than the city's tallest buildings hits New York with the most incredible mass of water to ever wash over a city, and Dorma declares that no lives have been lost? How would she know? And how would anyone taking a stroll on the waterfront survive any of this? An average flood can kill people in real life. THIS... should have razed the city.

  • Also, I find it weird that an event of this magnitude would not be mentioned in any other title.

  • This contradicts previous appearances where Namor was impervious to electric shocks.

  • It seems to me like the narrative did not follow the art. For example on page 9, it would have made much more sense if they did not mention that Lady Dorma tried to escape. Because now, it feels like we missed a few panels. An adequate dialog simply about the missing ship would have avoided that.

  • The Wrath of Warlord Khan, err... sorry, I mean Krang, is another one of those stupid stories where the hero is mistaken for the bad guy. I think that in Stan's simple mind, this is the only way to deal with anti-heroes. But despite my reserves, I did enjoy the read and some of Grandenetti's panels were very good so 3 stars.
 
 
 

 
 
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Essential Incredible Hulk, Volume 1
 
This collection includes Incredible Hulk #1 (v1), Incredible Hulk #2 (v1), Incredible Hulk #3 (v1), Incredible Hulk #6 (v1), Incredible Hulk #4a (v1), Tales to Astonish #61b (v1), Tales to Astonish #60b (v1), Tales to Astonish #62b (v1), Tales to Astonish #63b (v1), Tales to Astonish #64b (v1), Tales to Astonish #65b (v1), Tales to Astonish #66b (v1), Tales to Astonish #67b (v1), Tales to Astonish #68b (v1), Tales to Astonish #69b (v1), Tales to Astonish #70b (v1), Tales to Astonish #71b (v1), Tales to Astonish #72a (v1), Tales to Astonish #73a (v1), Tales to Astonish #74a (v1), Tales to Astonish #75b (v1), Tales to Astonish #76b (v1), Tales to Astonish #77b (v1), Tales to Astonish #78b (v1), Tales to Astonish #79b (v1), Tales to Astonish #80b (v1), Tales to Astonish #81a (v1), Tales to Astonish #82b (v1), Tales to Astonish #83b (v1), Tales to Astonish #84b (v1), Tales to Astonish #85b (v1), Tales to Astonish #86a (v1), Incredible Hulk #5a (v1), Tales to Astonish #87a (v1), Tales to Astonish #88a (v1), Tales to Astonish #89a (v1), Tales to Astonish #90a (v1), Tales to Astonish #91a (v1), Incredible Hulk #4b (v1), Incredible Hulk #5b (v1)
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This collection includes Tales to Astonish #70a (v1), Tales to Astonish #71a (v1), Tales to Astonish #75a (v1), Tales to Astonish #76a (v1), Tales to Astonish #80a (v1), Tales to Astonish #82a (v1), Tales to Astonish #83a (v1), Tales to Astonish #84a (v1), Tales to Astonish #85a (v1), Tales to Astonish #86a (v1)
     
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   March 28, 2018 RobinHoodMtl Added United States Armed Forces to the issue.
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