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45: Strange Tales #107 (v1)

" The Master of Flame Vs. The Monarch of the Sea!! "
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Strange Tales #107 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: Jack Kirby
Writers: Stan Lee
Pencilers: Dick Ayers
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Letterers: Artie Simek
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: April 1963
Release Date: January 1963
Story Arc: -
Pages: 13
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 1,315                 Times Rated: 702
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Tales to Astonish #40 (v1)
Strange Tales #106 (v1)
Strange Tales #107 (v1)
Fantastic Four #12 (v1)
Journey into Mystery #90 (v1)
43: Tales to Asto...
#40 (v1)
44: Strange Tales
#106 (v1)
 
46: Fantastic Fou...
#12 (v1)
47: Journey into ...
#90 (v1)
 
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Thinking that the Fantastic Four does not take him seriously, Johnny Storm decides that to prove his worth he will take on Prince Namor alone! The Human Torch vs the Submariner, fire vs water, who will be victorious?
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Character Appearances
 
Main Characters
  The Human Torch
The Human Torch last appeared in Strange Tales #106 (v1). The Human Torch next appears in Fantastic Four #12 (v1).
     
Supporting Characters
  Mr. Fantastic
Mr. Fantastic last appeared in Strange Tales #106 (v1). Mr. Fantastic next appears in Fantastic Four #12 (v1).
     
  The Thing
The Thing last appeared in Strange Tales #106 (v1). The Thing next appears in Fantastic Four #12 (v1).
     
  The Invisible Girl
The Invisible Girl last appeared in Strange Tales #106 (v1). The Invisible Girl next appears in Fantastic Four #12 (v1).
     
Villains
  The Sub-Mariner
The Sub-Mariner last appeared in Fantastic Four #9 (v1). The Sub-Mariner next appears in Fantastic Four #14 (v1).
     
 
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The Fantastic Four (Roster I)
The Fantastic Four last appeared in Strange Tales #106 (v1). The Fantastic Four next appears in Fantastic Four #12 (v1).
   
     
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Dreaded Porcupine
   September 4, 2016
Classic early Marvel fight. Johnny showed that arrogant fish man. I scored this fight a draw. They each won one round apiece. Sub by was heavily favored and in his element. The torch did well in this fight.
 
 
 
 
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  thomassp74 Says:    
  2011-11-19 16:31:13  
  Although this story was better than some of the previous ones, it's still annoying that Torch's powers and weaknesses seem to change from issue to issue. Previously a little water would incapacitate him. Now he can be submerged in the ocean and come right out and flame on?

Also, give me Dick Ayers over Jack Kirby any day. Sue is finally pretty.
 
 
 

  Safis Says:    
  2012-01-27 22:33:20  
  A nice, classic superhero battle. I like it. I agree regarding Torch's powers though. I always feel like I don't know him as well as the other FF's just because of that, even though I've read way more issues with him in them than the other FF's.

I hear a lot of people saying they prefer Ayers' art over Kirby's, but I really do prefer Kirby's myself
 
 
 

  Webslinger Says:    
  2012-03-29 09:39:31  
  The good point here is the adventure Torch goes into having a free weekend, the bad is the always changing powers Hothead has, as sometime ago just a few wather would flame him off for a while, now he could submerge uncunscious for a sec. or two and flame on again.

Again we have character development, as we learn Namor stil wants to beat the Ff, but is not THE bad guy, as he won't let his foe die drowned.
 
 
 

  Jukebox_Hero Says:    
  2012-05-10 23:08:30  
  Pretty cool how this kind of harkens back to the old Golden Age battle between the original Human Torch and the Sub-Mariner, though I'll be the first to admit that fight was way better than this one. Still kind of neat, though.  
 
 

  Dark_Knight93 Says:    
  2012-06-28 20:40:33  
  Well this solo Torch issue is a lot better than the last one. It will be interesting to see if these stories even slightly improve now that they don't have that stupid "secret identity" thing ruining them. And hey, giving Torch some more actual villains to fight like Sub-Mariner isn't a bad idea either.  
 
 

  Agrippina Says:    
  2012-07-11 07:13:48  
  This is one of the better Strange Tales issues so far. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that the Sub Mariner is a lot more interesting than random communist plots and schemes.  
 
 

  olgamon Says:    
  2012-07-16 12:07:30  
  What a pointless fight! In the end it didn't even matter to him, and noone even knows what he did. And Namor lost some of his powers? eh? AND why does EVERYONE keep underestimating eachother? In every issue, not a shade of self doubt.  
 
 

  specialque Says:    
  2012-09-12 19:49:29  
  So Torchy decides to randomly start crap with Namor and gets off scot-free? Hmm...the more I think about it, the more I like a story that's just random fighting for no reason. Plus I get to see Namor give him a nice hard punch in the face. A decent story. In fact, probably the best solo Torch story so far. It really does solidify Johnny as a Grade-A douche though.  
 
 

  ringsting Says:    
  2012-10-22 09:10:42  
  Apart from the fact that Johnny starts a fight for no reason this is actually a better story.  
 
 

  Phantasmagoria Says:    
  2012-10-23 10:14:04  
  A few high points like Johnny's simple, believable motivation save this issue from being utterly mediocre.  
 
 

  Spider-Borg Says:    
  2012-11-16 08:48:22  
  Torch is a whiney bitch and then picks a fight for no reason. And why did Namor lose powers? What a joke  
 
 

  metsguy Says:    
  2012-12-15 02:49:27  
  Namor has the powers of a blowfish? Why is this awesome, awesome power not used more often?  
 
 

  edgar987 Says:    
  2012-12-22 11:30:05  
  Did not like the puffer fish power at all! Otherwise a fun issue.  
 
 

  leisch Says:    
  2013-07-19 17:05:22  
  Torch pretty much acts his age in this one, and it leads to a pretty decent story. Namor pulls more fish powers out of his trunks. Johnny runs out of power just flying to the ocean, but then can go supernova and stay flaming underwater.  
 
 

  marvelcomicslover Says:    
  2013-09-07 00:39:04  
  Ok, I'm gonna go with the assumption that Torch's flame is getting stronger due to him still growing and his body still undergoing the changes from being exposed to cosmic rays. However, why does Stan say that Namor can no longer mimic sea life.?!? Does he at least give an explanation for this..? I like the artwork of Ayers in this.  
 
 

  Tarquinnff3 Says:    
  2013-10-02 05:42:05  
  Oh look, it's a good thing there is a piece of asbestos lying under the water, next to the statue I was coming to get. You know, since I'm fighting the Human Torch...  
 
 

  VenomousIntent Says:    
  2013-11-13 21:52:14  
  This issue was awful. The cover got me hyped, but the story fell short. I was terribly disappointed.  
 
 

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-01-04 17:13:21  
  2 stars for Namor only.

Cover Me - Love that cover! It looks like Namor is using the power of a dolphin.

Ancient Weapon - You'd think Namor would of used the hypnotic statue later when he attacked New York.

'Nuff Said - "Go on home, sonny, before you get hurt!"-Namor
 
 
 

  Bramwell Says:    
  2014-01-09 21:29:40  
  1. I can see how this would have been considered an epic issue given the classic golden age cast.
2. Sue's new power - typing
3. Even Namor keeps asbestos lying around.
4. Hypnotism and supernovas too...all we need is commies to start a silver age apocalypse.
Alright...it has its share of bad tropes- asbestos, hypnotism, supernovas, ever-increasing power levels - but the battle really is a very good read. 4 stars on the silver age curve.
 
 
 

  zengosm Says:    
  2014-04-15 17:10:43  
  I actually felt like the torch was the villain in this one. Made it more interesting than the others.  
 
 

  rainbowsad Says:    
  2014-07-05 18:49:11  
  So Namor just lost his powers? For no reason? Okay?  
 
 

  Anonymous Says:    
  2014-07-26 17:21:35  
  To start with, Torch was a jerk because he went out looking for trouble. His reason? So others would know how tough he was. So, yeah, Johnny's kinda a trouble-maker.

With that said, he actually beats Namor by himself. Prior battles with the whole group have been more or less draws. So, he actually wins and then he just keeps it to himself? Yeah, right! Gimme a break!
 
 
 

  rook420 Says:    
  2014-07-26 17:22:58  
  To start with, Torch was a jerk because he went out looking for trouble. His reason? So others would know how tough he was. So, yeah, Johnny's kinda a trouble-maker.

With that said, he actually beats Namor by himself. Prior battles with the whole group have been more or less draws. So, he actually wins and then he just keeps it to himself? Yeah, right! Gimme a break!
 
 
 

  UncannySteven Says:    
  2014-10-14 00:40:07  
  Johnny called that dolphin a fish, what a dummy!  
 
 

  storyeater Says:    
  2015-01-04 13:37:34  
  UncannySteven,thats because,in that era,alien invasion symbolized communist invasion...it was an oft used parable.  
 
 

  ViolentPhlegm Says:    
  2015-05-31 16:45:16  
  Ugh... Can't stand pointless fight issues.  
 
 

  Carlo Says:    
  2015-10-03 22:09:46  
  So Torch picks a fight just to show how tough he is.

Then, Namor beats the Torch, and straps him to a dolphin so he gets home to his family and friends.

But then Torch beats Namor, and leaves him BURIED ALIVE.

Congrats, Johnny, you've just made Namor the good guy.
 
 
 

  Urgat Says:    
  2015-10-29 16:58:19  
  one of the first superhero/-villain fights...i actually liked it...3stars only because of the childish reason....  
 
 

  jbb10499 Says:    
  2015-11-23 10:36:54  
  Best torch story yet. Not hard to do though,...  
 
 

  RobinHoodMtl Says:    
  2016-03-08 18:35:27  
 
  • Flying aver the sea, with no place to land, when you don’t know when your flame is going to die, and then challenge the Sub-Mariner? Bad, bad move! The whole time, it feels like the Torch is the villain, whereas Namor acts like a gentleman.

  • I think that so far, including the Golden Age, Dick Ayers is the first to draw a Sub-Mariner that does not look like a caricature. I really like it. His drawings of marine life are also pretty accurate.

  • A human body cannot be “saturated” by water.

  • Johnny can now stay ablaze underwater. *sigh* Water does not evaporate into air, guys!!! So desperate!

  • Comments above say that Namor lost some of his powers? I read twice, but I can’t see any reference to that. Did I miss anything?

  • Well if it wasn’t for that nasty habit of coming up with new powers, that would have been a very good story. And it is still the best solo adventure for the Torch till now. So three stars.
 
 
 

  Shintetsuken Says:    
  2016-03-23 02:10:35  
  I look forward to the issue where asbestos is not mentioned.  
 
 

  Billstar2 Says:    
  2016-04-11 17:03:13  
  Inconsistent fire powers aside,this was a nice little slugfest. Granted it was with two of my least favorite characters but still good.
 
 
 

  Calion @ RobinHoodMtl (original post):    
  2016-05-23 19:47:24  
  Water contains oxygen. Presumably, the intense heat split the water molecules and allowed him to breathe (of course the hydrogen and oxygen would just combust again in the presence of his flame, but nevermind that).  
 
 

  anetella Says:    
  2016-05-24 10:25:12  
  Am I the only one who actually rooted for Namor in this fight?  
 
 

  RobinHoodMtl @ Calion (original post):    
  2016-05-24 16:43:51  
  Again, heat generates steam, not air. You actually need hydrolysis to break water molecules, not heat. But you're right that his flame would pop hydrogen back into water anyway.  
 
 

  Calion @ RobinHoodMtl (original post):    
  2016-05-25 07:46:25  
  Are you sure that *sufficient* heat wouldn't break steam into its component atoms? I have a hard time picturing water vapor in the Sun.  
 
 

  RobinHoodMtl @ Calion (original post):    
  2016-05-25 18:02:04  
  You may be right and I don't want to start a debate, but I doubt there is any form of water whatsoever aound the Sun! But my point was that he should not be able to stay ablaze underwater, period! Even if somehow, the laws of physics theorized that it is possible under specific circumstances, to the common reader, it is still BS! Don't you agree?  
 
 

  Calion @ RobinHoodMtl (original post):    
  2016-05-26 06:30:00  
  Right, there's no water because any water molecules that formed would instantly break apart due to the intense heat. That's my point. I'm not actually certain about this, but it makes sense to me. But yes, this makes little sense.  
 
 

  Shentenza Says:    
  2016-07-14 10:09:17  
  I was really hyped about this one. Sub-Mariner against the Torch. The fight itself was great, but everything else ist just crap.

Torch should be the super hero, he acts like he is the super villain. He just wanna show off, acts like a bully, try to kill the Sub Mariner only to get more credits from Reed and the others, that's horrible.

Namor is coming across like a nice person, just wanna make sure the fishes are safe, he does not even harm Torch after he beats him.

And the whole skill set of the Torch is messed up, he gets new abilitys in every issue, everything changes, the rules of his skills changes nd nobody really knows how long his flames work, cause even in this issue it changes a lot.

Those Strange Tales comics with the Torch makes me hate him.
 
 
 

  Murphynator42 Says:    
  2016-10-23 17:33:55  
  Johnny, for the love of all that will one day be good in the Marvel universe, please stop going after bad guys more powerful than you are just to prove that you can. Because you can't. You did kind of alright this time. But your ego is going to become an even bigger problem than it already is if you keep this up  
 
 

  ScottG12 Says:    
  2016-11-06 10:44:25  
  Not a bad little piece of fan service. However near the end they heavily hinted that the Torch will once again quit the F4 for an issue to join forces with yet another villain. I really hated the last issue for doing that, so I'm not looking forward to seeing them do it again. Hopefully they did it better.  
 
 

  noahsell Says:    
  2017-06-04 21:37:30  
  Honestly not a bad issue I kinda liked it. But by the end the very wordy fight ran on for way too long. But what a fantastic cover  
 
 

  jennychan Says:    
  2018-01-12 07:45:34  
  Wow, this has to be one of the best covers so far. Any kid would have bought that from the newsstands if he had the money.

This was a battle in the Mighty Marvel Tradition. Disappointed in the comments here that you guys don't understand that Johnny is a rick-taking hot-headed teen.

The only thing I didn't like was Torch swimming in the ocean.

Anyway, this comic delivered as promised form the cover. Many 1980s advertised fights only lasted a few panels. This fight was the bulk of the comic.
 
 
 

 
 
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Essential Human Torch, Volume 1
 
This collection includesStrange Tales #117a (v1), Strange Tales #101 (v1), Strange Tales #102 (v1), Strange Tales #103 (v1), Strange Tales #104a (v1), Strange Tales #105 (v1), Strange Tales #106 (v1), Strange Tales #107 (v1), Strange Tales #108a (v1), Strange Tales #109 (v1), Strange Tales #110a (v1), Strange Tales #111a (v1), Strange Tales #112 (v1), Strange Tales #113 (v1), Strange Tales #114a (v1), Strange Tales #115a (v1), Strange Tales #116a (v1), Strange Tales #118a (v1), Strange Tales #119a (v1), Strange Tales #120a (v1), Strange Tales #121a (v1), Strange Tales #122a (v1), Strange Tales #123a (v1), Strange Tales #124a (v1), Strange Tales #125a (v1), Strange Tales #126a (v1), Strange Tales #128a (v1), Strange Tales #129a (v1), Strange Tales #130a (v1), Strange Tales #131a (v1), Strange Tales #132a (v1), Strange Tales #133a (v1), Strange Tales #134a (v1), Strange Tales Annual #2
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This collection includesStrange Tales #101 (v1), Strange Tales #102 (v1), Strange Tales #103 (v1), Strange Tales #104a (v1), Strange Tales #105 (v1), Strange Tales #106 (v1), Strange Tales #107 (v1), Strange Tales #108a (v1), Strange Tales #109 (v1), Strange Tales #110a (v1), Strange Tales Annual #2
     
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