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652: Avengers #41 (v1)

" Let Sleeping Dragons Lie! "
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Avengers #41 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: John Buscema
Writers: Roy Thomas
Pencilers: John Buscema
Inkers: George Bell
Letterers: Artie Simek
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: June 1967
Release Date: April 1967
Story Arc: -
Pages: 20
Cover Price: $0.12
Times Read: 522                 Times Rated: 290
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Daredevil #32 (v1)
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Issue Blurb
After Goliath receives the statue of Dragon Man to study, Diablo makes his move to recover his once loyal creature.
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
Hawkeye last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). Hawkeye next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
Quicksilver last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). Quicksilver next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
  The Scarlet Witch
The Scarlet Witch last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). The Scarlet Witch next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
Goliath last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). Goliath next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
  The Wasp
The Wasp last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). The Wasp next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
Supporting Characters
Hercules last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). Hercules next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
  Black Widow
Black Widow last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). Black Widow next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
  William Foster
William Foster last appeared in Avengers #35 (v1). William Foster next appears in Avengers #54 (v1).
Diablo last appeared in Fantastic Four Annual #3. Diablo next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
  Dragon Man
Dragon Man last appeared in Fantastic Four #47 (v1). Dragon Man next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
  Dr. Yen
Dr. Yen last appeared in Avengers #29 (v1). Dr. Yen next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
  Wai Ling
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Wai Ling in the mainstream continuity. Wai Ling next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
Group Appearances
The Avengers (Roster V)
The Avengers last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). The Avengers next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
Chinese Military
Chinese Military last appeared in Avengers #30 (v1). Chinese Military next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
Equipment, Items & Vehicles
Hawkeye's Bow
Hawkeye's Bow last appeared in Avengers #40 (v1). Hawkeye's Bow next appears in Avengers #42 (v1).
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  Utumieli Says:    
  2013-05-13 06:12:24  
  "That brainless brobdingnagian brute"
now, say that ten times fast!

  leisch Says:    
  2013-08-13 12:41:12  
  I know Diablo too k Hank too, but c'mon-Wasp is a hostage again!  

  Raistlin903 Says:    
  2014-01-31 19:20:40  
  Didn't take long for Hawkeye to start bickering with the new guy.......  

  duncanm Says:    
  2014-03-25 23:03:10  
  To be fair Raistlin, Herc is being even more of a jerk than Hawkeye in this case.  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-09-06 21:35:38  
  Please oh please let high pockets be the first hero to fall! Am I evil for this desideratum?  

  specialque Says:    
  2014-10-13 09:07:18  
  Not a bad issue, but Herc was somewhat of ana**early on.  

  MattzLadd Says:    
  2014-10-29 19:07:54  
  That old guy on the first panel of Page 8 looks like a giant bigger than Goliath!  

  Locust75 Says:    
  2014-12-27 21:54:34  
  3 stars for the Amazing Dragon-Man & Friends!!!

Asshat Of The Month - Don't worry guys, Ol' Herc steps up to take over Hawkeyes place for a while. Then Quicksilver gets his turn at bat...

Vic Rattlehead - I recommend listening to Megadeth's "Psychotron" while reading Black Widow's part!

Style - Man, John Buscema draws the Dragon Man's face creepy!!!

So Small - I guess the colorist didn't see the Wasp in Diablo's palm. Maybe, it's his new threads! (p17,p5)

The Help - I guess nobody cares about what happened to Bill Foster...

'Nuff Said - "Observe, mortal...and marvel!"-Hercules

  UncannySteven Says:    
  2015-05-18 16:56:32  
  Why is Herc still around? I hate that character.  

  GroovyGolem Says:    
  2016-02-20 17:03:56  
  Who would have expected the Psychotron to be a giant hamster tunnel? Can't say I was overly impressed, especially after Colonel Ling oversold it.

I like the idea that Hercules, being a demigod, is naturally good at things beyond just strength, and that he could give Hawkeye a run for his money with a bow.

So... Hank Pym lives in a suburban ranch-style house, yet across the street is a 10-story office building and full city block?

I like how Hank needs to shrink to normal size in order to explain things to Jan. But I do wonder about his judgement when, upon being faced with an approaching crowd of people, he suggests shrinking to ant-size.

And yet, I did like the fact that Hank's fight with Dragon Man physically wore him down... Made it seem like the stakes were pretty high.

  Russ Says:    
  2016-10-05 18:09:59  
  3 stars for a decent story, and for Dragon Man making Hank feeling like a Draggin' Man after that slugfest.

And Hawkeye clashing with Avengers again, even with Cap gone. Ol' Herc sure put him in his place in short order!

The Avengers has taken a slight dip in quality since Cap's departure, but the stories are still way better than Daredevil or X-Men. And speaking of which, we're in the midst of a stretch where the Big Three are absent (Cap, Thor, Iron Man).

  skabeaters Says:    
  2016-12-16 20:30:21  
  Hawkeye wants to go hand-to-hand with Hercules? I don't blame him, I blame the writer.  

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Essential Avengers, Volume 2
This collection includesAvengers #25 (v1), Avengers #26 (v1), Avengers #27 (v1), Avengers #28 (v1), Avengers #30 (v1), Avengers #31 (v1), Avengers #32 (v1), Avengers #33 (v1), Avengers #34 (v1), Avengers #35 (v1), Avengers #36 (v1), Avengers #37 (v1), Avengers #38 (v1), Avengers #39 (v1), Avengers #40 (v1), Avengers #41 (v1), Avengers #42 (v1), Avengers #43 (v1), Avengers #44 (v1), Avengers Annual #1, Avengers #45 (v1)
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Issue Letters Page

Dear Stan, Roy, and Don,

      Looking over the past issues, Marvel has reached her height with the Avengers, F.F., X-Men and others. You have made a tough, hard core of crime-fighting veterans of victorious fights from 1961 to 1967. Along the line came Daredevil, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, and Nick Fury. Yet, because of this, some "replacing" must begin soon. The new Avengers are an example of your bold daring in changing a roster, yet you kept Cap on. True, you brought in the Mimic; and Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Hawkeye dropped in from the dark past to join the Avengers; but you have kept on those who are getting old. For one thing, Zemo is out of action, and I wish you would do the same with Cap. Also, I wish you would have more superheroes!

Christopher Dougherty, 128 Parkway West.
Bloomfield, N.J.

You gotta be kidding, Chris! More super-heroes? Sheesh The New York census bureau is always crackin' down on us to get rid of a few! (After all, would you wanna have to make the monumental decision of whether Goliath, Giant-Man Ant-Man, and Hank Pym should be counted as one person or a string quartet?) The thing that really grabbed us about your letter, though, was your reference to the magnificent Mimic joining our favorite assemblers. It might’a happened that way, Mr. D.— but, are you sure you weren’t just having a bad dream after reading Brand Echh again?

Dear Stan, Roy, and Don,

      I would like you to send me a wonderful present. Please subject the Black Widow or a plate showing her to gamma rays, and, hopefully, she will come to life and then you can send her to me. I'm in love with the Black Widow! Furthermore, I love, just love Marvel Comics and I can't get enough of them. Here and there I miss an issue and then—confusion sets in. A villain has miraculously become a hero, there are five extra characters added to a mag or a new plot twist—and I am lost. Please, in the front of each issue, give a little summary of who the characters are and how they fit into the plot and where they came from. No, you won't do that. Well, 1 love ya anyway. Love and kisses to the Black Widow — who says she isn't the most beautiful super-heroine in the world?

John Hiltz, Box 79, River Rd.
Relay, Md.

Not Rollickin’ Roy, that’s for sure! As a matter of fact, John, one of the standing arguments around the Bullpen is the matter of which of our fabulous femmes is the most beautiful! Gallopin’ Gary Friedrich holds out for the wonderful Wasp, while dashin’ Donnie himself is kind’a partial to the Scarlet Witch! As for Stan—the last we knew, he surfaced from amidst a pile of old SPIDEY issues just long enough to vote for Petey’s Aunt May! (Didn’t we tell ya that ol’ Smiley was turning into a case of walking eyestrain?)

Dear Stan, Roy, and Don,

      I must disagree on the matter of varying the lineup. To do so would make the Avengers less reliable. What if one day nobody up because they each forgot it was their turn? There is also another factor here that some are not aware of. (Tsk, tsk—dangling participle. Sorry about that, Roy!) All the other Marvel heroes have lives outside their costumes. Spidey goes college and lives the trials and tribulations of Peter Parker. Daredevil has his law practice as Matt Murdock. Iron Man leads quite a life as Tony Stark. What does Happy Hank do when he gets out of his stretch pants? Nothing. What does Hawkeye do when he lays down his quiver for the night? Likewise nothing. And when Quicksilver takes off his track shoes? As far as we know, all he does is soak his feet. In other words, the Avengers' whole lives revolve about their avenging—they have nothing else. And now, to suggest taking that away from them—for shame! The idea, though, of inviting other of your characters as occasional guest stars is nice. Now that the Black Widow is back, don't dispose of her. She's one of your most intriguing characters. Your books need more females, not fewer. Of course, if you keep her, you could vary’ the lineup each month, but keep it within the Avengers, so that dazzlin' Donny can draw more than heads. So, if you ever give out a no-prize for the “Merry Marvel Marcher who is Most Concerned with the Mental Health of the Avengers", I hope my name is put in nomination.

Judy Axelrod, 452 E. 95th St.
Brooklyn, N.Y.

Don’t worry, Judy—you head the list! (As a matter of fact, you are the list—but, why quibble?) By the way, if you stick around a while, we think you'll be learning lots more about the Avengers’ pulsatin’ private lives. And, oh yes—Rascally Roy says that wasn't a participle you left dangling — it was a preposition! For shame, gal! You know how things like that upset Stan’s punctilious protégé!

Dear Stan, Roy, and Don,

      Unfortunately, a fan whose letter you printed in issue #37 is in need of a history lesson. George Washington, Nathan Hale, and other heroes of the Revolution were not patriots, but traitors to their nation and its established government. Washington, as an ex-colonel in the French and Indian War, was in violation of his military oath to defend the crown. He couldn't have been a patriot of the United States since the Constitution was not ratified until after the Treaty of Paris. But there are things far more important than country, and one of those is liberty. Thomas Jefferson remarked that the government was created to serve the people, not the people to serve the government. Any government that has liberty as its basis is worth defending; any other is not. Benjamin Franklin wished to adopt “Rebellion against tyranny is obedience to God" as the national slogan. True men should have a love of freedom as the cornerstone to all their approach to government. "My government—right or wrong " is a betrayal of the spirit of the Revolution, and blind “patriotism” is a very poor substitute for democracy. This regard for freedom should stem from inside the individual soul. If it has to be "pounded in” it is indeed a sad commentary on the spirit of man. It is far easier to be a "patriot", unthinkingly and unquestionably loyal to whatever government the vagrancies of chance have seen fit to install than it is to be a defender of liberty. What if George Washington had taken the easier way? General Washington of the Royal Fusiliers!

L.J. Johnson, 2420 Virginia St.
Berkeley, Calif.

Hoo boy —who say: this isn’t mighty Marvel Age of Clamorous Controversy! With so many epithets being hurled back and forth, there's only one thing we of the Bullpen know for certain—no matter who wins the agonizin' argument, the other side will take us to task for finking out on them! So, we'll just say that the Father of Our Country must have loved those cavortin’ colonies—to give up a swingin' title like “General Washington of the Royal Fusiliers”! You don’t hardly get that kind no more, L. J!

Dear Stan, Roy, and Don,

      While reading AVENGERS #38 I came across an ad for a no-prize. I hope to receive it by telling you how Cap had two shields.Well, from page 2 through page 12, exactly 12 minutes and 39 seconds passed. In that time Cap called Sidney Spriter who is an operator who called Harry No-Prize who is in the complaint department who called Mr. I. Need who is in the shield department who called Mr. A. Shield who is in the "Make-A-Shield" department. This lasted 12 minutes, and A. Shield delivered an exact copy in 38 seconds. You ask why there is one second left? Boy! Some people....!

Richard Drillich, 5975 Shore Parkway
Brooklyn, N.Y. 11236

We give up, Rich! The shiny new water-proof, shock resistant no-prize is yours! (Though we're not sure as to whether we’re giving it to you because you really won it, or because we’re afraid that otherwise you'll send in an explanation even more confusing than the one above! Boy! Some people..!)

Dear Stan, Roy, and Don,

      Please don't put so many pencil lines in your art. It drives me crazy, trying to see a nose through a bunch of lines! Giant-Man looks like he hasn't washed his uniform in months! The lines certainly affect me adversely. Cap looks like something from Brand Echh. On to another subject—why does the ink come out of lines sometimes? It looks just awful. Sometimes the ink will he a quarter of an inch off. Brand Echh hardly ever has this problem. It’s a shame to think that the best comics group in the world can’t even solve a problem that one of the inferior brands has solved. Please try to give me a serious answer to my questions, and not evade the issue as you usually do you don't know the answer. Look it up!

Kenneth Bates, 100 Grandview Circle
Cornelia, Ga.

No need to, Kenneth! We already know the answer! But, sad to say, we can’t do anything about it— not just yet, anyway! You see. the pressure of putting out so many monthly mags (not to mention our bimonthly ones and our sensational Specials!) means that your Bullpen wages a constant war with that ol’ debbil Deadline—and, whenever a book goes out from our editorial offices a bit late, we don’t have a chance to check on such things as color as carefully as we’d like to.We keep hoping that, one day soon, we’ll find a way to banish our scheduling woes. And, in the meantime, we want to take this opportunity to thank the multitudes of readers who, in spite of such occasional blemishes, have boosted Marvel to the front ranks of comicdom! We’ll keep trying harder, faithful ones—you deserve no less!

Dear Stan, Roy, and Don,

      I don’t see why all these unspeakable people want the Avengers to break up. “The Ultroids Attack" was the best story I ever read. Roy, you really outdid yourself. Don's artwork was superb. I’ve never seen better! It's good to see Pietro and Wanda back in action. Cap is your best character, and Hawkeye is second only to him as the greatest fighting machine of all time. He has brains, too. Look how he solved the secret of the Burgomeister. The Black Widow should become an Avenger. All in all, I can’t see what you can't like about the Avengers—long live the Avengers!

Steven Risser, 127 River Rd.
Tewksbury, Mass. 01876

And“Vive le Steven Risser” to you lad! It seems everybody and his web-walkin' brother wants the beauteous Natasha to sign on the dotted line—but, there’s still the little matter of getting her out from behind the Bamboo Curtain. But, after that—who can tell? Certainly not Stan, Roy, and Don! They‘d even forgotten that Pietro and Wanda were back, until you clued 'em in! Thanks a mil, O Keeper of the Flame!

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   February 1, 2018 TStarnes Added Hawkeye[appost]s Bow listing.
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   January 15, 2018 Urgat
   November 20, 2017 TStarnes
   June 29, 2016 fragsel Updated the listing for William Foster.
   October 30, 2014 fragsel Updated the listing for Wai Ling.
   October 30, 2014 fragsel Updated the listing for Wai Ling.
   October 30, 2014 fragsel Added Chinese Military to the issue.
   October 30, 2014 fragsel Added Wai Ling to the issue.
   October 30, 2014 fragsel Added Dr. Yen to the issue.
   December 4, 2013 Drax Updated the listing for The Wasp.
   December 4, 2013 Drax Updated the listing for Henry Pym.
   December 4, 2013 Drax Updated the listing for The Scarlet Witch.
   December 4, 2013 Drax Updated the listing for Quicksilver.
   December 4, 2013 Drax Updated the listing for Hawkeye.
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