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2919: What If...? #4 (v1)

" What If the Invaders Had Stayed Together After World War Two? "
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What If...? #4 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Archie Goodwin
Cover Artists: Gil Kane, Frank Giacoia
Writers: Roy Thomas
Pencilers: Frank Robbins
Inkers: Frank Springer
Colourists: George Bell
Letterers: Joe Rosen, John Costanza
Editors: Roy Thomas
Cover Date: August 1977
Release Date: May 1977
Story Arc: -
Pages: 34
Cover Price: $0.50
Times Read: 161                 Times Rated: 97
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FULL ORDER

Defenders #49 (v1)
Defenders #50 (v1)
What If...? #4 (v1)
Captain America #204 (v1)
Captain America #205 (v1)
2917: Defenders
#49 (v1)
2918: Defenders
#50 (v1)
 
2920: Captain Ame...
#204 (v1)
2921: Captain Ame...
#205 (v1)
 
 
Character Appearances
 
Main Characters
  Captain America
Captain America last appeared in Defenders #44 (v1). Captain America next appears in Captain America #204 (v1).
     
  Bucky
Bucky last appeared in Fantastic Four Annual #11. Bucky next appears in Captain America #219 (v1).
     
  The Human Torch
The Human Torch last appeared in Fantastic Four Annual #11. The Human Torch next appears in Captain America Annual #6.
     
  Toro
Toro last appeared in Fantastic Four Annual #11. Toro next appears in Captain America Annual #6.
     
  The Sub-Mariner
The Sub-Mariner last appeared in Super-Villain Team-Up #13. The Sub-Mariner next appears in Marvel Two-in-One #28.
     
  Spitfire
Spitfire next appears in Captain America #253 (v1).
     
  Captain America (William Nasland)
Captain America (William Nasland) last appeared in All-Winners Comics #19 (v1). Captain America (William Nasland) next appears in Captain America #215 (v1). His death is shown in this issue.
     
  Miss America
Miss America last appeared in Marvel Two-in-One #20. Miss America next appears in Avengers #185 (v1).
     
  Bucky
Bucky last appeared in Captain America Comics #71a. Bucky next appears in Captain America Annual #6.
     
  Whizzer
Whizzer last appeared in Avengers #156 (v1). Whizzer next appears in Avengers #160 (v1).
     
  Captain America (Jeffrey Mace)
Captain America (Jeffrey Mace) last appeared in Marvel Two-in-One #20. Captain America (Jeffrey Mace) next appears in Captain America #215 (v1).
     
  Union Jack
Union Jack next appears in Midnight Sons Unlimited #9a.
     
Supporting Characters
  Uatu the Watcher
Uatu the Watcher last appeared in Marvel Two-in-One #20. Uatu the Watcher next appears in Fantastic Four #188 (v1).
     
  Phineas Horton
Phineas Horton last appeared in Avengers #135 (v1). Phineas Horton next appears in Fantastic Four #238a (v1).
     
  John F. Kennedy
John F. Kennedy last appeared in Deadly Hands of Kung Fu #16b. John F. Kennedy next appears in Saga of the Original Human Torch #3.
     
  Eva Braun
Eva Braun next appears in Saga of the Original Human Torch #3. Corpse Only.
     
  Major Rawlings
Major Rawlings next appears in Saga of the Sub-Mariner #5.
     
  Colonel Farrow
Colonel Farrow next appears in Saga of the Sub-Mariner #5.
     
  Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill last appeared in Captain America Comics #32a. Winston Churchill next appears in Saga of the Original Human Torch #2.
     
  Otto GŁnsche
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Otto GŁnsche in the mainstream continuity. Otto GŁnsche next appears in Saga of the Original Human Torch #3.
     
  Douglas MacArthur
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Douglas MacArthur in the mainstream continuity. Douglas MacArthur next appears in Saga of the Original Human Torch #4.
     
Villains
  Adolf Hitler
Adolf Hitler last appeared in Marvel Two-in-One Annual #1. Adolf Hitler next appears in Super-Villain Team-Up #16.
     
  Baron Zemo
Baron Zemo last appeared in Fantastic Four Annual #11. Baron Zemo next appears in Captain America #362a (v1).
     
  Adam II
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Adam II in the mainstream continuity. Adam II next appears in Saga of the Original Human Torch #3.
     
 
Group Appearances
All Winners Squad
All Winners Squad last appeared in All-Winners Comics #21 (v1). All Winners Squad next appears in Saga of the Original Human Torch #3.
   
     
British Armed Forces
British Armed Forces last appeared in Fantastic Four Annual #11. British Armed Forces next appears in Super Spider-Man and Captain Britain #231.
   
     
The Invaders
The Invaders last appeared in Fantastic Four Annual #11. The Invaders next appears in Captain America Annual #6.
   
     
Nazis
Nazis last appeared in Marvel Two-in-One #20. Nazis next appears in Captain America #219 (v1).
   
     
United States Armed Forces
United States Armed Forces last appeared in Incredible Hulk #206 (v1). United States Armed Forces next appears in Ms. Marvel #3 (v1).
   
     
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Issue Notes

This issue of What If? is unique, as it is considered part of the mainstream 616 continuity. This issue also adds context to the flashback events found in Avengers #56.
 
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RikerDonegal
   January 5, 2015
Too long and boring. First half is too wordy, like reading a lecture. Second half is a convoluted and silly story. 2/10
 
 
 
 
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Comments
   
 
  Redsvetz Says:    
  2013-03-05 14:19:01  
  -The art is Kah-rappy!
-I'm a little confused as to why this book is included in The CMRO. That aside, it's one of the weaker issues of What If? that I've read. Maybe because I'm just not very interested in Golden Age characters.
 
 
 

  Alex Daily Says:    
  2014-01-12 07:19:45  
  Redsvetz, it's included here because it's NOT a What If, but actual 616 fact, retconned in to explain the post-war pre-Fantastic Four appearances of Captain America and his youthful sidekick.  
 
 

  Drax Says:    
  2014-01-27 14:41:22  
  This one is so much better when you also read the first volume Invaders. I'm glad Roy Thomas wanted to fill the gaps.  
 
 

  skalchemist Says:    
  2014-09-16 15:06:16  
  I may be the only person reading the Order who likes Frank Robbins, but otherwise this was hurried and disorganized. It feels like something that was written to paper over a hole in continuity.  
 
 

  gmonkey Says:    
  2014-10-27 11:18:20  
  Other than the origin stories for CA, Thor, Spiderman, and Hulk, this is the earliest story in the order that I owned when I was a kid. Finally, I've figured out why Frank Robbins' art style was so familiar to me.

This comic also taught me who Truman and MacArthur were.
 
 
 

  CeeNote12 Says:    
  2015-01-08 09:23:54  
  I thought this book was okay. I enjoyed getting introduced to some golden age heroes like the Whizzer (who has a pretty interesting story actually, read his Wiki). My question is this, where are all the other What If... books? I know theres like 30 some V1 and more V2 as well.  
 
 

  ThunderZtorm @ CeeNote12 (original post):    
  2015-05-18 17:22:10  
  Most of the "What If" books are not actually set in the 616-universe continuity. They are, well, "what if" thought experiments where writers could go a bit nuts. They're a fun read though, and they are a part of the full, completionist (aka crazy peoples) reading order that you can find on the forum.  
 
 

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2016-01-05 21:29:34  
  How could Hitler's death be shown in this issue when he was the Hate monger?  
 
 

  heman0420 Says:    
  2016-01-10 18:03:56  
  The art was horrendous.  
 
 

  butters911 @ TheAmazingGatorMan (original post):    
  2016-05-22 16:05:42  
  The Hate Monger was a clone of Hitler.  
 
 

  MattDog37 Says:    
  2017-03-05 17:26:54  
  The Watcher must have spent a lot of time in the gym since we last saw him.  
 
 

 
 
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Updates
Date User Name Update
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added Douglas MacArthur to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added All Winners Squad to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added United States Armed Forces to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added British Armed Forces to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added Nazis to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added Otto GŁnsche to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added Winston Churchill to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added Colonel Farrow to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added Major Rawlings to the issue.
   November 19, 2016 fragsel Added Eva Braun to the issue.
   May 30, 2016 fragsel Added John F. Kennedy to the issue.
   May 23, 2016 Drax Updated the listing for Union Jack.
   May 23, 2016 Drax Updated the listing for Spitfire.
   January 5, 2015 TStarnes Changed comic details.
   January 5, 2015 Drax Updated the listing for Hitler.
   January 5, 2015 Drax Updated the listing for Bucky.
   January 5, 2015 Drax Updated the listing for Captain America (William Nasland).
   August 5, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Captain America (Jeffrey Mace).
   August 5, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Captain America (William Nasland).
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Union Jack.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Captain America (Jeffrey Mace).
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Whizzer.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Bucky.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Miss America.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Captain America (William Nasland).
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Spitfire.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for The Sub-Mariner.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Toro.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for The Human Torch.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Bucky.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Updated the listing for Captain America.
   January 27, 2014 Drax Added The Invaders to the issue.
   November 10, 2013 Raistlin903 Changed comic details.
     
 
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