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1171: Incredible Hulk #130 (v1)

" If I Kill You, I Die! "
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Incredible Hulk #130 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: Herb Trimpe
Writers: Roy Thomas
Pencilers: Herb Trimpe
Inkers: Herb Trimpe
Letterers: Sam Rosen
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: August 1970
Release Date: May 1970
Story Arc: -
Pages: 20
Cover Price: $0.15
Times Read: 332                 Times Rated: 202
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Universes:   Earth-616  
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Captain America #132 (v1)
Thor #174 (v1)
Incredible Hulk #130 (v1)
Daredevil #68 (v1)
Fantastic Four #95 (v1)
1169: Captain Ame...
#132 (v1)
1170: Thor
#174 (v1)
1172: Daredevil
#68 (v1)
1173: Fantastic F...
#95 (v1)
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Issue Blurb
Banner tires of becoming the Hulk and seeks aid from an old colleague to rid of him of his transformations. When the change occurs, however, it separates the Hulk and Banner into two different beings, and the Hulk hates Banner!
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
  The Hulk
The Hulk last appeared in Captain Marvel #21 (v1). The Hulk next appears in Incredible Hulk #131 (v1). The Hulk appear as both Bruce Banner and the Hulk in this issue, as separate characters..
Supporting Characters
  Betty Ross
Betty Ross last appeared in Incredible Hulk #128 (v1). Betty Ross next appears in Incredible Hulk #131 (v1).
  Thunderbolt Ross
Thunderbolt Ross last appeared in Incredible Hulk #128 (v1). Thunderbolt Ross next appears in Incredible Hulk #131 (v1).
  Glenn Talbot
Glenn Talbot last appeared in Incredible Hulk #128 (v1). Glenn Talbot next appears in Incredible Hulk #131 (v1).
  Raoul Stoddard
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by Raoul Stoddard in the mainstream continuity.
Group Appearances
United States Armed Forces
United States Armed Forces last appeared in Sub-Mariner #20 (v1). United States Armed Forces next appears in Avengers #82 (v1).
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Issue Review
   November 18, 2016
I walked in thinking this would be the same kind of tried a billion times story from the Hulk - especially with the reading order putting a pause on Hulk for a while. But to seem that the Hulk separated from Bruce - and STAYED that way at the end was a tremendous shock. Haven't seen that in a while.
Now, much of the story was still the trite remarks back and forth between characters - that was expected. Not much in any depth of any characters, really. The story still feels like the oldest of comics cliches. But for a Hulk story, it seemed better. We will see.
   November 15, 2016
Back on form for a great story.
The first six pages really capture the spirit of the chase to capture the Hulk. We are close to the site of the Hulk’s latest rampage, and Banner is shirtless and on foot. A small USAF plane is flying overhead and tracking his movements, relaying the information back to Ross. Very tense, very exciting.
After that, events take a surprising twist and the real story gets going. Plenty of action, and a fresh take on the Hulk dilemma.
The art is beautiful, and we end with the problem unresolved.
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  MrRsBB Says:    
  2013-06-23 07:32:07  
  Trimpe art still works well for me. Eric Larsen borrowed a lot from this styling. Some pages, again, look like modern Hulk. Story is very good, clearly there are always inconsistencies with continuity, oh, well...Marvel will just untangle it all later....or in dialog/thought balloons during the story. The script is pretty good...high word count, but it was ok here.(3+)  

  leisch Says:    
  2013-08-27 08:00:15  
  Nice idea for a Hulk story. I want to see how this one plays out.  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-11-11 09:05:26  
  Interesting turn of events here. Great direction for the story to go. Much better than cheesy Scooby Doo-esque issues.  

  duncanm Says:    
  2014-12-08 20:41:50  
  I liked the intro of Banner's former colleague, someone that helps him even though he resents him. Also the split of Banner/Hulk is intriguing, and I'm interested to see what they do with it. What I would really love though would be for the army to at least try to come up with a weapon that would be a legitimate threat to the Hulk, rather than just showing up and shooting him, which they know doesn't work.  

  specialque Says:    
  2014-12-27 09:40:18  
  I hated Stoddard's random heel turn at the end.  

  melvillean Says:    
  2015-06-20 16:43:24  
  Standard's got, like, a six-head.  

  melvillean @ melvillean (original post):    
  2015-06-21 00:45:02  
  Stoddard, I mean. Stupid autocorrect.  

  Vancelot Says:    
  2015-09-05 05:44:08  
  I didn't know Peyton Manning was even alive in 1970, much less making guess appearances in comics.  

  Locust75 Says:    
  2015-11-28 14:56:59  
  3 stars for the separation of Man & Monster!!! Plus, they both get to wear purple pants!!!

Cover Me - The bystanders are so scared, that it's even knocking their hats off!!!

No Prize - In Captain Marvel #21, it was Pro Josiah Weller. Now it's Dr Herbert Weller!!!

Dirty Old Man - Of course, Ol' Thunderbolt Ross would say "Great Thunderballs"!!!

'Nuff Said - "And--who are you? You--the one with bare chest!"-Curious Hulk

  Shocker Says:    
  2016-03-05 08:04:51  
  Thank God for a decent story after all this bad CA. 3 stars.  

  Katryn Says:    
  2016-11-26 08:03:41  
  Wait, I'm rating something from 1970 more than 2 stars? And its the Hulk?! Someone call a doctor, I must be ill.  

  Russ Says:    
  2017-01-07 06:07:46  
  I have to admit, this one was pretty good. The story was logical and had to happen eventually, but it was handled quite well by Roy and Herb.

It's hard to figure out what's worse: becoming a big green rage monster, or having said monster coming after you all the time wanting to kill you! I liked the mental connection that Banner and the hulk shared; that had to scare the bejeebus out of anyone in close proximity to Banner. But if they got this far, can they now make the Hulk simply forget about Banner? Shouldn't be that difficult, you'd think.

And yeah, that was a d**k move by Stoddard toward the end. Dude, fame isn't all it's cracked up to be; just ask Banner himself.

4 stars. Sure it had a few flaws, and maybe I'm comparing it to most of the other 1970 stories, but this was well done and I like where it's going.

  zengosm Says:    
  2017-02-24 10:44:42  
  I gave it four stars for the both Banner and Hulk refusing to admit they're the different parts of the same Freudian mind despite the evidence to the contrary, and Stoddard unleashing his own Hulk at the end when he almost shoots the whole military.  

  benmason486 Says:    
  2017-08-24 12:48:19  
  I know it can't be permanent, but it is cool that Hulk and Banner are separate for a while.

I understand professional envy, but killing your rival never works out.

  JonahBlack Says:    
  2017-10-09 11:31:40  
  For the love of God, will no one give Banner a shirt?

Trimpe reminds me of Kirby, in that he's really good at drawing objects, but his people look weird. In Trimpe's case, he's good at drawing mundane things like cars, houses, and airplanes, whereas Kirby is better with fantastical things, but I think the comparison stands.

It may not be my cup of tea, but I can see why many of you like his work. I will say the coloring in this book really does emphasize his style in the way a more muted palette wouldn't.

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Marvel Masterworks: Incredible Hulk, Volume 6
This collection includes Incredible Hulk #122 (v1), Incredible Hulk #124 (v1), Incredible Hulk #125 (v1), Incredible Hulk #126 (v1), Incredible Hulk #127 (v1), Incredible Hulk #128 (v1), Incredible Hulk #129 (v1), Incredible Hulk #130 (v1), Incredible Hulk #131 (v1), Incredible Hulk #132 (v1), Incredible Hulk #133 (v1), Incredible Hulk #134 (v1)
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   April 13, 2018 ViolentPhlegm
   March 28, 2018 fragsel Added United States Armed Forces to the issue.
   February 3, 2018 TStarnes
   May 4, 2015 sewixo Changed comic details.
   May 4, 2015 sewixo Changed comic details.
   February 4, 2014 fragsel Updated the listing for Raoul Stoddard.
   February 4, 2014 fragsel Added Raoul Stoddard to the issue.
   August 16, 2013 jfpj1991 Added blurb for this issue.
   May 4, 2013 TStarnes Changed comic details.
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