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1292: Sub-Mariner #34 (v1)

" Titans Three! "
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Sub-Mariner #34 (v1)
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Editor-in-Chief: Stan Lee
Cover Artists: Sal Buscema
Writers: Roy Thomas
Pencilers: Sal Buscema
Inkers: Jim Mooney
Letterers: Artie Simek
Editors: Stan Lee
Cover Date: February 1971
Release Date: November 1970
Story Arc: -
Pages: 20
Cover Price: $0.15
Times Read: 286                 Times Rated: 186
Plot Flags:  
Go to Issue #33 Go to Issue #35

Daredevil #76 (v1)
Incredible Hulk #138 (v1)
Sub-Mariner #34 (v1)
Sub-Mariner #35 (v1)
Incredible Hulk #139 (v1)
1290: Daredevil
#76 (v1)
1291: Incredible ...
#138 (v1)
1293: Sub-Mariner
#35 (v1)
1294: Incredible ...
#139 (v1)
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Issue Blurb
Namor discovers a machine that is capable of wreaking havoc with Earth's weather and atmosphere. He seeks aid from other's outcast by society to destroy the man-made project.
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Character Appearances
Main Characters
  The Sub-Mariner
The Sub-Mariner last appeared in Sub-Mariner #33 (v1). The Sub-Mariner next appears in Sub-Mariner #35 (v1).
Supporting Characters
  The Hulk
The Hulk last appeared in Incredible Hulk #138 (v1). The Hulk next appears in Sub-Mariner #35 (v1).
  Silver Surfer
Silver Surfer last appeared in Silver Surfer #18 (v1). Silver Surfer next appears in Sub-Mariner #35 (v1).
  Lady Dorma
Lady Dorma last appeared in Sub-Mariner #33 (v1). Lady Dorma next appears in Sub-Mariner #35 (v1).
  Lord Vashti
Lord Vashti last appeared in Sub-Mariner #33 (v1). Lord Vashti next appears in Sub-Mariner #36 (v1).
  El General
First Appearance
This is the first appearance by El General in the mainstream continuity.
Group Appearances
Atlanteans last appeared in Sub-Mariner #33 (v1). Atlanteans next appears in Sub-Mariner #35 (v1).
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Issue Review
   November 16, 2013
Sal Buscema and Jim Mooney make a nice team. We have quality throughout....except for the story. Yawn, we get another dictator in South America, and this dictator is lamer than most. Such a shame to waste a great art team on such a poor story (again). The Roy Thomas script is pretty bad, with character announcements of previous and upcoming actions. The dialogue was typical RT. The one thing that stands out is Buscema draws Hulk with eyes closed...bizarre (3-)
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  green_flame_616 Says:    
  2012-01-11 23:28:56  
  Is this the first time that Sal Buscema drew the Hulk? I know he is known for a long run on the Incredible Hulk.

Also, if only Doc Strange had showed up, you could call this the first appearance of the Defenders.

  Wady Says:    
  2012-09-24 16:33:41  
  This is for me the test run for the Defenders.  

  MrRsBB Says:    
  2013-11-16 03:13:22  
  lots of panels with Hulk's eyes closed....I guess he's just so angry all the time that the stress on his face forces his eyes closed is what sal mighta thunk...surfer with blue highlights is overly iceman lookin....still, Jim Mooney rules  

  leisch Says:    
  2014-01-31 16:42:48  
  Nice 'pilot episode' for Defenders, but that poor general was hopelessly outmatched.  

  illcom94 Says:    
  2014-06-20 16:51:26  
  Not a bad story, although a re-hashed one. Good art though.  

  TheAmazingGatorMan Says:    
  2014-11-24 11:45:50  
  I guess the comments answered my question. Looks like this may be a trial run of the Defenders. Really cool.  

  specialque Says:    
  2015-01-22 07:34:50  
  While I can always get behind the super-team concept, I'm a little sad that we're possibly leaving behind Namor's undersea political intrigues and mythology. The stories varied in quality, but what I've always liked about getting to the Sub-Mariner in the order is that his kingdom is always different from everything else in the Marvel Universe.

I have never read a Defenders comic, so this trial run was interesting. Right now those three form a "we hate mankind" trio, but somehow they want to save it. Should be interesting.

  duncanm Says:    
  2015-02-05 11:40:01  
  Trying to reason with dumb humans, but they don't trust you? The obvious solution is to recruit a couple of other guys that the humans don't trust, and that will attack the humans at the slightest provocation!  

  Daredevil Says:    
  2015-03-26 07:27:56  
  Talk about hopelessly outclassed. The Hulk, Sub Mariner and Silver Surfer against what - Galactus? No. Thanos? No. Dictator with hopelessly ill equipped army? That's the one.  

  Locust75 Says:    
  2016-01-18 18:32:27  
  3 stars for Namor making new friends!!!

Pink Eye - What is wrong with El General's left eye??

'Nuff Said - "Si, mi general! I mean--no, mi general--!"-Sniveling Perro

  MattzLadd Says:    
  2016-02-21 13:29:55  
  Hark at the first instance of the bare-chested three, preliminary founders of one of my all-time favourite teams - the Defenders.  

  Katryn Says:    
  2017-01-06 06:57:02  
  Hulk thinks he's too smart for Namor - that got it an extra star.  

  Russ Says:    
  2017-02-09 13:01:55  
  Once again, the forces of tyranny and dictatorship are defeated thanks to the Marvel Propaganda Machine. This time, delivered by a teaming of outcast anti-heroes that'll soon join forces as the Defenders. But while I liked the concept of the "Pre-Defenders", it was completely and entirely wasted on this story.

This team-up was just unnecessary. The Surfer already took down a South American dictatorship in his own mag, and proved that the task for him alone is like swatting a fly with a Sherman tank. Throwing Hulk and Namor in the mix, and you're just nuking that fly's remains. I almost felt sorry for the General by the time the Tricked-Out Trio joined forces. It was brutal.

3 stars; a 2-star story with a team-up that points toward an important future plot point nets that extra star. And a nice reference to Silver Surfer #18, even if we didn't yet get the story behind the Surfer's change of heart.

  benmason486 Says:    
  2017-10-18 11:33:04  
  Not that the Silver Surfer would know this, but Namor has not "reigned unchallenged." He was challenged last issue and every few issues before that. He's almost as bad as a child-king in Medieval Europe.

The fight with Silver Surfer could have been avoided if Namor was less of an imperious bastard. Being the monarch of a nation doesn't mean that other people have to respect and obey you.

Here's hoping the revolutionaries have some sense of government and diplomacy, or else it will just fall to corrupt despotism once again.

  Allencthulhu Says:    
  2017-10-19 11:03:47  
  Everyone is talking about the Defenders and this team-up actually works. (My favorite Defenders team is Nighthawk, Valkyrie and Hellcat, but hey).

So, yeah, we have the typical misunderstanding fights that end with yet another misunderstanding fight. If El General had just sat back, the proto-Defenders would have gone their own way and he'd still be sort-of sane.

I would have liked to give it four stars but there's only so many misunderstanding fights you can have in a book.

Three stars.

  JonahBlack Says:    
  2017-11-15 05:18:47  
  Apparently Hulk, Namor, and Surfer share a power: The ability to hear plot-relevant dialog no matter how far a way the speaker is, or how many explosions are happening between them.

3 Stars for the proto-defenders!

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Essential Defenders, Volume 1
This collection includesMarvel Feature #2 (v1), Marvel Feature #3 (v1), Defenders #1 (v1), Defenders #2 (v1), Defenders #3 (v1), Defenders #4 (v1), Defenders #6 (v1), Defenders #5 (v1), Defenders #7 (v1), Defenders #8a (v1), Defenders #9 (v1), Defenders #10 (v1), Defenders #11 (v1), Defenders #12 (v1), Defenders #13 (v1), Defenders #14 (v1), Avengers #115a (v1), Avengers #116 (v1), Avengers #117 (v1), Avengers #118 (v1), Doctor Strange #183 (v1), Sub-Mariner #22 (v1), Sub-Mariner #34 (v1), Sub-Mariner #35 (v1), Incredible Hulk #126 (v1), Marvel Feature #1a (v1)
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Date User Name Update
   November 20, 2017 TStarnes
   March 15, 2016 fragsel Added El General to the issue.
   May 5, 2015 sewixo Changed comic details.
   March 15, 2014 Robareid Updated the listing for Lord Vashti.
   March 15, 2014 Robareid Updated the listing for Lady Dorma.
   March 15, 2014 Robareid Updated the listing for The Sub-Mariner.
   November 20, 2013 fragsel Added Atlanteans to the issue.
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