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Ah, and I see it is indeed mentioned in that issue's comments.
Ah, and I see it is indeed mentioned in that issue's comments.
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Posted: November 28th, 2012, 9:39 pm |
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zuckyd1 wrote: DOOM wrote: As far as cannon goes, it's really up to Marvel. They don't really seem to hold anything outside of their comic publishing line as cannon. In fact the only example of something outside of comics being considered cannon is the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. And that is (obviously) part of the Ultimate line. Which, kind of makes sense as Ultimate was all about trying different things. There is one novel that seems to be considered canon by Marvel. One of the Spider-Man novels was later referenced in the comic. I forget which one; I think it was mentioned on one of the other threads. If the novel is not added to the order (and public sentiment seems to feel that it shouldn't be), It probably bears mentioning in the notes for that particular Spider-Man issue. The novel in question is Mayhem in Manhattan, the events of which were referenced in Amazing Spider-Man #186, making that novel part of the 616 continuity. Since the Order only lists comics, though, this novel won't be included here.
[quote="zuckyd1"][quote="DOOM"]As far as cannon goes, it's really up to Marvel. They don't really seem to hold anything outside of their comic publishing line as cannon. In fact the only example of something outside of comics being considered cannon is the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. And that is (obviously) part of the Ultimate line. Which, kind of makes sense as Ultimate was all about trying different things.[/quote] There is one novel that seems to be considered canon by Marvel. One of the Spider-Man novels was later referenced in the comic. I forget which one; I think it was mentioned on one of the other threads. If the novel is not added to the order (and public sentiment seems to feel that it shouldn't be), It probably bears mentioning in the notes for that particular Spider-Man issue.[/quote]
The novel in question is [url=http://www.amazon.com/AMAZING-SPIDER-MAN-MAYHEM-MANHATTAN/dp/B000KIH3U2/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1354142895&sr=1-3&keywords=spider-man+mayhem+in+manhattan]Mayhem in Manhattan[/url], the events of which were referenced in Amazing Spider-Man #186, making that novel part of the 616 continuity. Since the Order only lists comics, though, this novel won't be included here.
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Posted: November 28th, 2012, 5:53 pm |
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According to Wikipedia, Spider-Man: Down These Mean Streets is 616-canon and takes place after ASM #509.
Also, for Ultimate fans, Tomorrow Men by Michael Jan Friedman is set between Volumes 1 and 2 of the Ultimates comic book series.
According to Wikipedia, Spider-Man: Down These Mean Streets is 616-canon and takes place after ASM #509.
Also, for Ultimate fans, Tomorrow Men by Michael Jan Friedman is set between Volumes 1 and 2 of the Ultimates comic book series.
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Posted: November 28th, 2012, 1:43 pm |
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Posted: November 28th, 2012, 1:38 pm |
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DOOM wrote: As far as cannon goes, it's really up to Marvel. They don't really seem to hold anything outside of their comic publishing line as cannon. In fact the only example of something outside of comics being considered cannon is the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. And that is (obviously) part of the Ultimate line. Which, kind of makes sense as Ultimate was all about trying different things. There is one novel that seems to be considered canon by Marvel. One of the Spider-Man novels was later referenced in the comic. I forget which one; I think it was mentioned on one of the other threads. If the novel is not added to the order (and public sentiment seems to feel that it shouldn't be), It probably bears mentioning in the notes for that particular Spider-Man issue.
[quote="DOOM"]As far as cannon goes, it's really up to Marvel. They don't really seem to hold anything outside of their comic publishing line as cannon. In fact the only example of something outside of comics being considered cannon is the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. And that is (obviously) part of the Ultimate line. Which, kind of makes sense as Ultimate was all about trying different things.[/quote] There is one novel that seems to be considered canon by Marvel. One of the Spider-Man novels was later referenced in the comic. I forget which one; I think it was mentioned on one of the other threads. If the novel is not added to the order (and public sentiment seems to feel that it shouldn't be), It probably bears mentioning in the notes for that particular Spider-Man issue.
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Posted: November 28th, 2012, 1:25 pm |
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As far as cannon goes, it's really up to Marvel. They don't really seem to hold anything outside of their comic publishing line as cannon. In fact the only example of something outside of comics being considered cannon is the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. And that is (obviously) part of the Ultimate line. Which, kind of makes sense as Ultimate was all about trying different things.
As far as cannon goes, it's really up to Marvel. They don't really seem to hold anything outside of their comic publishing line as cannon. In fact the only example of something outside of comics being considered cannon is the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. And that is (obviously) part of the Ultimate line. Which, kind of makes sense as Ultimate was all about trying different things.
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Posted: December 28th, 2011, 4:17 pm |
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DOOM wrote: NO! Lol! Yeah as far as novelizations of existing storylines go, I definitely agree they are like reprints. For original works, I also agree they shouldn't be in the order ... my view is that maybe they should be considered "canon" as long as they don't contradict events in the comics, but I really don't want to read them, so we can leave them out haha. I have reached a similar epiphany about Sgt Fury, Captain Savage, etc.
[quote="DOOM"]NO![/quote]
Lol! Yeah as far as novelizations of existing storylines go, I definitely agree they are like reprints. For original works, I also agree they shouldn't be in the order ... my view is that maybe they should be considered "canon" as long as they don't contradict events in the comics, but I really don't want to read them, so we can leave them out haha. I have reached a similar epiphany about Sgt Fury, Captain Savage, etc.
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Posted: December 28th, 2011, 1:07 am |
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No, this would essentially be a reprint and not an original work. Even if it weren't, adding other medium definitely causes problems.
Also, one of the best novels about comics (more or less) is The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay by Michael Chabon. Anyone read it?
No, this would essentially be a reprint and not an original work. Even if it weren't, adding other medium definitely causes problems.
Also, one of the best novels about comics (more or less) is [i]The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay[/i] by Michael Chabon. Anyone read it?
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Posted: December 28th, 2011, 12:12 am |
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Posted: December 27th, 2011, 11:23 pm |
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I don't know about novelizations of existing comic book stories, but there are plenty of novels about comic book characters. Which makes me wonder ... in the case of Marvel, do we consider novels such as this or this canon, and if so, should they be included in the order?
I don't know about novelizations of existing comic book stories, but there are plenty of novels about comic book characters. Which makes me wonder ... in the case of Marvel, do we consider novels such as [url=http://www.amazon.com/Great-Gold-Steal-Captain-America/dp/B000HJR7L4]this[/url] or [url=http://www.amazon.com/Spider-Man-Carnage-York-D-Michelinie/dp/0425167038/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325045647&sr=1-1]this[/url] canon, and if so, should they be included in the order?
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Posted: December 27th, 2011, 11:14 pm |
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