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Uncanny X-men annual thirteen should be before the Bloodstone arc that covers cap 357b to 362a because of the footnote on page 20 of cap 358 and Diamondbacks thoughts on the same page. I went and glanced at UXM annual 13 and it seems heavily involved in some continuity that takes place after the position that Cap 358 currently occupies in the order. it would probably be easier to move The bloodstone arc forward to after the Atlantis Attacks arc.

363 and 364 can be safely moved to after Atlantis Attacks as well.
Post Posted: May 19th, 2013, 12:53 am
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I did some further checking and Iron Man 39-40 cannot be moved after Incredible Hulk 140.
Incredible Hulk 140 is direct continuation of avengers 88. Avengers 89 takes place simultanously with Avengers 88. While they friends help hulk three remaining members of Avengers takes part in adventure which is first part of Kree/skrull wars. It is mentioned there it takes place in the same time.
Cap & all the other comes back in the middle of that story line but Falcon is not with them. So neither Iron Man 39-40 should be between avengers 88&89, nor there should be reason for falcon to appear with Avengers after Kree/Skrull wars.
In my opinion it should be left as it is
Post Posted: May 18th, 2013, 2:27 pm
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Drax wrote:
I think Iron Man 39-40 should be moved after Incredible 140 Hulk. That would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM 39. Since all the characters involved do not appears between these issues, I don't see it affecting other titles.


Could You explain to me why it doesn't fit where it is?
I don't see anything out of order. There is nothing in Avengres 88 & Incredible Hulk 140 which indictes that he couldn't accompany the Avnegres in the previous adventures. Also he didn't become a memeber there or anything.
Why "that would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM39", cause i don't see that explanation. Why is it wrong the way it is now?
Post Posted: May 18th, 2013, 1:58 pm
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Punisher War Journal 9 should be before Punisher v2 24 as per the footnote and Franks comments on page 13 of Punisher v2 24.
Post Posted: May 18th, 2013, 12:54 am
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I think Iron Man 39-40 should be moved after Incredible 140 Hulk. That would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM 39. Since all the characters involved do not appears between these issues, I don't see it affecting other titles.
Post Posted: May 17th, 2013, 4:49 pm
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@jlknotted it would be best for me if you posted them here as I would be able to comment on them. if you note why you think issues should be moved I could check them in relation other mags.
Post Posted: May 17th, 2013, 2:46 pm
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Thank you for your help and comments, rocketraccoon. Please, believe me that I didn't want to ask you or other people to read all that Thor and Avengers issues. I just have a list that worked well (for me) some time ago, and I thought it could be of some interest to share it in case one wants to check that part of the Order.

I agree that I could try to check again all these issues and write some comments, if any, explaining why each one should be moved under my point of view. I have the problem that I don't have issues of other books so I can't suggest exact movings. However, if you consider it will be of some help, I could put Thor issues between suggested Avengers issues with some brief explanation. I would need some time. If tstarnes or you prefer, I can send these comments directly by email instead of writing them here.

In any case, thank you very much for spending time answering me.
Post Posted: May 17th, 2013, 8:00 am
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sorry it took so long I just got back from a 3 hour lecture. what he says about thor 382 is correct. it seems to take place very shortly after thor 381 and there nothing preventing it being moved. errors like that don't bug me so much. for everything else I would suggest holding off a mass move until it is certain that moving those issues won't confuse anything. I'm particularity skeptical of moving the avengers around as they tend to connected to a lot of other issues. I would ask Jlknotted to note why each issue should be moved so it is certain that nothing else is compromised when creating a better Thor reading order.
Post Posted: May 16th, 2013, 8:47 pm
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I haven't read through that arc yet. Rocket, you read through this and recommended some of the changes in that area, how does this look to you?

Anyone else want to weigh in?
Post Posted: May 16th, 2013, 4:12 pm
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Been checking Thor's reading order.

I think something doesn't work well with Thor appearances in Thor and The Avengers during Walter Simonson's run, specially from Secret Wars II to Thor 382. For example, Thor 381 and Thor 382 appear very separated in the order while they seem to be consecutive.

This is the list of Thor and Avengers issues I am talking about as they appear in the CMRO:

Thor 337
Thor 338
Thor 339
Thor 340
Avengers 240
Avengers 241
Avengers 242
Secret Wars I 1-12
Thor 341
Avengers 243
Thor 342
Thor 343
Thor 344
Avengers 244
Avengers 245
Avengers Annual 13
Avengers 246
Avengers 247
Avengers 248
Thor 345
Thor 346
Thor 347
Thor 348
Thor 349
Avengers 249
Thor 350
Thor 351
Avengers 250
Thor 352
Thor 353
Thor 354
Thor 355
Thor 357
Thor 358
Thor 359
Avengers 251
Avengers 252
Avengers 253
Avengers 254
Avengers 255
Avengers 256
Avengers 257
Thor 360
Thor 361
Thor 362
Avengers 258
Avengers 259
Avengers 260
Avengers Annual 14
Avengers 261
Avengers 262
Thor 363
Avengers 263
Avengers 264
Avengers 265
Avengers 266
Thor 364
Thor 365
Thor 366
Thor 367
Thor 368
Thor 369
Avengers 267
Avengers 268
Avengers 269
Avengers 270
Thor 371
Thor 372
Avengers 271
Avengers 272
Avengers Annual 15
Thor 373
Thor 374
Avengers 273
Avengers 274
Avengers 275
Avengers 276
Avengers 277
Thor 375
Thor 376
Thor 377
Thor 378
Thor 379
Thor 380
Mephisto vs 4
Thor 381
Avengers 278
Avengers 279
Avengers 280
Avengers 281
Avengers 282
Avengers 283
Avengers 284
Avengers 285
Thor 382

And this is a list I did when I read the comics some time ago, partially based on the Marvel Chronology Project:

Thor 337
Thor 338
Thor 339
Thor 340
Avengers 240
Avengers 241
Avengers 242
Secret Wars I 1-12
Avengers 243
Thor 341
Thor 342
Thor 343
Thor 344
Avengers 244
Avengers 245
Avengers Annual 13
Avengers 246
Avengers 247
Avengers 248
Thor 345
Thor 346
Thor 347
Thor 348
Thor 349
Avengers 249
Thor 350
Thor 351
Thor 352
Thor 353
Avengers 250
Thor 354
Thor 355
Thor 357
Thor 358
Thor 359
Avengers 251
Avengers 252
Avengers 253
Avengers 254
Avengers 255
Avengers 256
Avengers 257
Avengers 258
Avengers 259
Avengers 260
Avengers Annual 14
Avengers 261
Thor 360
Thor 361
Thor 362
Avengers 262
Avengers 263
Thor 363
Thor 364
Thor 365
Thor 366
Avengers 264
Avengers 265
Avengers 266
Thor 367
Thor 368
Thor 369
Thor 371
Thor 372
Thor 373/1
Avengers 267
Avengers 268
Avengers 269
Avengers 270
Avengers 271
Avengers 272
Avengers Annual 15
Thor 373/2
Thor 374
Avengers 273
Avengers 274
Avengers 275
Avengers 276
Avengers 277
Thor 375
Thor 376
Thor 377
Thor 378
Thor 379/1
Avengers 278
Avengers 279
Avengers 280
Avengers 281
Avengers 282
Avengers 283
Avengers 284
Avengers 285
Thor 379/2
Thor 380
Mephisto vs 4/1
Thor 381/1
Mephisto vs 4/2
Thor 381/2
Thor 382

I would like to propose to check if this list could be more appropriate than the present one at CMRO for, especially, the last part of Simonson's run in Thor. I am very sorry that I can not include other books to be more helpful.
Post Posted: May 16th, 2013, 4:02 pm

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