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Uncanny X-men annual thirteen should be before the Bloodstone arc that covers cap 357b to 362a because of the footnote on page 20 of cap 358 and Diamondbacks thoughts on the same page. I went and glanced at UXM annual 13 and it seems heavily involved in some continuity that takes place after the position that Cap 358 currently occupies in the order. it would probably be easier to move The bloodstone arc forward to after the Atlantis Attacks arc.
363 and 364 can be safely moved to after Atlantis Attacks as well.
Uncanny X-men annual thirteen should be before the Bloodstone arc that covers cap 357b to 362a because of the footnote on page 20 of cap 358 and Diamondbacks thoughts on the same page. I went and glanced at UXM annual 13 and it seems heavily involved in some continuity that takes place after the position that Cap 358 currently occupies in the order. it would probably be easier to move The bloodstone arc forward to after the Atlantis Attacks arc.
363 and 364 can be safely moved to after Atlantis Attacks as well.
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Posted: May 19th, 2013, 12:53 am |
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I did some further checking and Iron Man 39-40 cannot be moved after Incredible Hulk 140. Incredible Hulk 140 is direct continuation of avengers 88. Avengers 89 takes place simultanously with Avengers 88. While they friends help hulk three remaining members of Avengers takes part in adventure which is first part of Kree/skrull wars. It is mentioned there it takes place in the same time. Cap & all the other comes back in the middle of that story line but Falcon is not with them. So neither Iron Man 39-40 should be between avengers 88&89, nor there should be reason for falcon to appear with Avengers after Kree/Skrull wars. In my opinion it should be left as it is
I did some further checking and Iron Man 39-40 cannot be moved after Incredible Hulk 140. Incredible Hulk 140 is direct continuation of avengers 88. Avengers 89 takes place simultanously with Avengers 88. While they friends help hulk three remaining members of Avengers takes part in adventure which is first part of Kree/skrull wars. It is mentioned there it takes place in the same time. Cap & all the other comes back in the middle of that story line but Falcon is not with them. So neither Iron Man 39-40 should be between avengers 88&89, nor there should be reason for falcon to appear with Avengers after Kree/Skrull wars. In my opinion it should be left as it is
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Posted: May 18th, 2013, 2:27 pm |
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Drax wrote: I think Iron Man 39-40 should be moved after Incredible 140 Hulk. That would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM 39. Since all the characters involved do not appears between these issues, I don't see it affecting other titles. Could You explain to me why it doesn't fit where it is? I don't see anything out of order. There is nothing in Avengres 88 & Incredible Hulk 140 which indictes that he couldn't accompany the Avnegres in the previous adventures. Also he didn't become a memeber there or anything. Why "that would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM39", cause i don't see that explanation. Why is it wrong the way it is now?
[quote="Drax"]I think Iron Man 39-40 should be moved after Incredible 140 Hulk. That would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM 39. Since all the characters involved do not appears between these issues, I don't see it affecting other titles.[/quote]
Could You explain to me why it doesn't fit where it is? I don't see anything out of order. There is nothing in Avengres 88 & Incredible Hulk 140 which indictes that he couldn't accompany the Avnegres in the previous adventures. Also he didn't become a memeber there or anything. Why "that would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM39", cause i don't see that explanation. Why is it wrong the way it is now?
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Posted: May 18th, 2013, 1:58 pm |
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Punisher War Journal 9 should be before Punisher v2 24 as per the footnote and Franks comments on page 13 of Punisher v2 24.
Punisher War Journal 9 should be before Punisher v2 24 as per the footnote and Franks comments on page 13 of Punisher v2 24.
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Posted: May 18th, 2013, 12:54 am |
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I think Iron Man 39-40 should be moved after Incredible 140 Hulk. That would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM 39. Since all the characters involved do not appears between these issues, I don't see it affecting other titles.
I think Iron Man 39-40 should be moved after Incredible 140 Hulk. That would explain why the Falcon is with the Avengers in IM 39. Since all the characters involved do not appears between these issues, I don't see it affecting other titles.
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Posted: May 17th, 2013, 4:49 pm |
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@jlknotted it would be best for me if you posted them here as I would be able to comment on them. if you note why you think issues should be moved I could check them in relation other mags.
@jlknotted it would be best for me if you posted them here as I would be able to comment on them. if you note why you think issues should be moved I could check them in relation other mags.
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Posted: May 17th, 2013, 2:46 pm |
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Thank you for your help and comments, rocketraccoon. Please, believe me that I didn't want to ask you or other people to read all that Thor and Avengers issues. I just have a list that worked well (for me) some time ago, and I thought it could be of some interest to share it in case one wants to check that part of the Order.
I agree that I could try to check again all these issues and write some comments, if any, explaining why each one should be moved under my point of view. I have the problem that I don't have issues of other books so I can't suggest exact movings. However, if you consider it will be of some help, I could put Thor issues between suggested Avengers issues with some brief explanation. I would need some time. If tstarnes or you prefer, I can send these comments directly by email instead of writing them here.
In any case, thank you very much for spending time answering me.
Thank you for your help and comments, rocketraccoon. Please, believe me that I didn't want to ask you or other people to read all that Thor and Avengers issues. I just have a list that worked well (for me) some time ago, and I thought it could be of some interest to share it in case one wants to check that part of the Order.
I agree that I could try to check again all these issues and write some comments, if any, explaining why each one should be moved under my point of view. I have the problem that I don't have issues of other books so I can't suggest exact movings. However, if you consider it will be of some help, I could put Thor issues between suggested Avengers issues with some brief explanation. I would need some time. If tstarnes or you prefer, I can send these comments directly by email instead of writing them here.
In any case, thank you very much for spending time answering me.
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Posted: May 17th, 2013, 8:00 am |
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sorry it took so long I just got back from a 3 hour lecture. what he says about thor 382 is correct. it seems to take place very shortly after thor 381 and there nothing preventing it being moved. errors like that don't bug me so much. for everything else I would suggest holding off a mass move until it is certain that moving those issues won't confuse anything. I'm particularity skeptical of moving the avengers around as they tend to connected to a lot of other issues. I would ask Jlknotted to note why each issue should be moved so it is certain that nothing else is compromised when creating a better Thor reading order.
sorry it took so long I just got back from a 3 hour lecture. what he says about thor 382 is correct. it seems to take place very shortly after thor 381 and there nothing preventing it being moved. errors like that don't bug me so much. for everything else I would suggest holding off a mass move until it is certain that moving those issues won't confuse anything. I'm particularity skeptical of moving the avengers around as they tend to connected to a lot of other issues. I would ask Jlknotted to note why each issue should be moved so it is certain that nothing else is compromised when creating a better Thor reading order.
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Posted: May 16th, 2013, 8:47 pm |
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I haven't read through that arc yet. Rocket, you read through this and recommended some of the changes in that area, how does this look to you?
Anyone else want to weigh in?
I haven't read through that arc yet. Rocket, you read through this and recommended some of the changes in that area, how does this look to you?
Anyone else want to weigh in?
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Posted: May 16th, 2013, 4:12 pm |
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Been checking Thor's reading order.
I think something doesn't work well with Thor appearances in Thor and The Avengers during Walter Simonson's run, specially from Secret Wars II to Thor 382. For example, Thor 381 and Thor 382 appear very separated in the order while they seem to be consecutive.
This is the list of Thor and Avengers issues I am talking about as they appear in the CMRO:
Thor 337 Thor 338 Thor 339 Thor 340 Avengers 240 Avengers 241 Avengers 242 Secret Wars I 1-12 Thor 341 Avengers 243 Thor 342 Thor 343 Thor 344 Avengers 244 Avengers 245 Avengers Annual 13 Avengers 246 Avengers 247 Avengers 248 Thor 345 Thor 346 Thor 347 Thor 348 Thor 349 Avengers 249 Thor 350 Thor 351 Avengers 250 Thor 352 Thor 353 Thor 354 Thor 355 Thor 357 Thor 358 Thor 359 Avengers 251 Avengers 252 Avengers 253 Avengers 254 Avengers 255 Avengers 256 Avengers 257 Thor 360 Thor 361 Thor 362 Avengers 258 Avengers 259 Avengers 260 Avengers Annual 14 Avengers 261 Avengers 262 Thor 363 Avengers 263 Avengers 264 Avengers 265 Avengers 266 Thor 364 Thor 365 Thor 366 Thor 367 Thor 368 Thor 369 Avengers 267 Avengers 268 Avengers 269 Avengers 270 Thor 371 Thor 372 Avengers 271 Avengers 272 Avengers Annual 15 Thor 373 Thor 374 Avengers 273 Avengers 274 Avengers 275 Avengers 276 Avengers 277 Thor 375 Thor 376 Thor 377 Thor 378 Thor 379 Thor 380 Mephisto vs 4 Thor 381 Avengers 278 Avengers 279 Avengers 280 Avengers 281 Avengers 282 Avengers 283 Avengers 284 Avengers 285 Thor 382
And this is a list I did when I read the comics some time ago, partially based on the Marvel Chronology Project:
Thor 337 Thor 338 Thor 339 Thor 340 Avengers 240 Avengers 241 Avengers 242 Secret Wars I 1-12 Avengers 243 Thor 341 Thor 342 Thor 343 Thor 344 Avengers 244 Avengers 245 Avengers Annual 13 Avengers 246 Avengers 247 Avengers 248 Thor 345 Thor 346 Thor 347 Thor 348 Thor 349 Avengers 249 Thor 350 Thor 351 Thor 352 Thor 353 Avengers 250 Thor 354 Thor 355 Thor 357 Thor 358 Thor 359 Avengers 251 Avengers 252 Avengers 253 Avengers 254 Avengers 255 Avengers 256 Avengers 257 Avengers 258 Avengers 259 Avengers 260 Avengers Annual 14 Avengers 261 Thor 360 Thor 361 Thor 362 Avengers 262 Avengers 263 Thor 363 Thor 364 Thor 365 Thor 366 Avengers 264 Avengers 265 Avengers 266 Thor 367 Thor 368 Thor 369 Thor 371 Thor 372 Thor 373/1 Avengers 267 Avengers 268 Avengers 269 Avengers 270 Avengers 271 Avengers 272 Avengers Annual 15 Thor 373/2 Thor 374 Avengers 273 Avengers 274 Avengers 275 Avengers 276 Avengers 277 Thor 375 Thor 376 Thor 377 Thor 378 Thor 379/1 Avengers 278 Avengers 279 Avengers 280 Avengers 281 Avengers 282 Avengers 283 Avengers 284 Avengers 285 Thor 379/2 Thor 380 Mephisto vs 4/1 Thor 381/1 Mephisto vs 4/2 Thor 381/2 Thor 382
I would like to propose to check if this list could be more appropriate than the present one at CMRO for, especially, the last part of Simonson's run in Thor. I am very sorry that I can not include other books to be more helpful.
Been checking Thor's reading order.
I think something doesn't work well with Thor appearances in Thor and The Avengers during Walter Simonson's run, specially from Secret Wars II to Thor 382. For example, Thor 381 and Thor 382 appear very separated in the order while they seem to be consecutive.
This is the list of Thor and Avengers issues I am talking about as they appear in the CMRO:
Thor 337 Thor 338 Thor 339 Thor 340 Avengers 240 Avengers 241 Avengers 242 Secret Wars I 1-12 Thor 341 Avengers 243 Thor 342 Thor 343 Thor 344 Avengers 244 Avengers 245 Avengers Annual 13 Avengers 246 Avengers 247 Avengers 248 Thor 345 Thor 346 Thor 347 Thor 348 Thor 349 Avengers 249 Thor 350 Thor 351 Avengers 250 Thor 352 Thor 353 Thor 354 Thor 355 Thor 357 Thor 358 Thor 359 Avengers 251 Avengers 252 Avengers 253 Avengers 254 Avengers 255 Avengers 256 Avengers 257 Thor 360 Thor 361 Thor 362 Avengers 258 Avengers 259 Avengers 260 Avengers Annual 14 Avengers 261 Avengers 262 Thor 363 Avengers 263 Avengers 264 Avengers 265 Avengers 266 Thor 364 Thor 365 Thor 366 Thor 367 Thor 368 Thor 369 Avengers 267 Avengers 268 Avengers 269 Avengers 270 Thor 371 Thor 372 Avengers 271 Avengers 272 Avengers Annual 15 Thor 373 Thor 374 Avengers 273 Avengers 274 Avengers 275 Avengers 276 Avengers 277 Thor 375 Thor 376 Thor 377 Thor 378 Thor 379 Thor 380 Mephisto vs 4 Thor 381 Avengers 278 Avengers 279 Avengers 280 Avengers 281 Avengers 282 Avengers 283 Avengers 284 Avengers 285 Thor 382
And this is a list I did when I read the comics some time ago, partially based on the Marvel Chronology Project:
Thor 337 Thor 338 Thor 339 Thor 340 Avengers 240 Avengers 241 Avengers 242 Secret Wars I 1-12 Avengers 243 Thor 341 Thor 342 Thor 343 Thor 344 Avengers 244 Avengers 245 Avengers Annual 13 Avengers 246 Avengers 247 Avengers 248 Thor 345 Thor 346 Thor 347 Thor 348 Thor 349 Avengers 249 Thor 350 Thor 351 Thor 352 Thor 353 Avengers 250 Thor 354 Thor 355 Thor 357 Thor 358 Thor 359 Avengers 251 Avengers 252 Avengers 253 Avengers 254 Avengers 255 Avengers 256 Avengers 257 Avengers 258 Avengers 259 Avengers 260 Avengers Annual 14 Avengers 261 Thor 360 Thor 361 Thor 362 Avengers 262 Avengers 263 Thor 363 Thor 364 Thor 365 Thor 366 Avengers 264 Avengers 265 Avengers 266 Thor 367 Thor 368 Thor 369 Thor 371 Thor 372 Thor 373/1 Avengers 267 Avengers 268 Avengers 269 Avengers 270 Avengers 271 Avengers 272 Avengers Annual 15 Thor 373/2 Thor 374 Avengers 273 Avengers 274 Avengers 275 Avengers 276 Avengers 277 Thor 375 Thor 376 Thor 377 Thor 378 Thor 379/1 Avengers 278 Avengers 279 Avengers 280 Avengers 281 Avengers 282 Avengers 283 Avengers 284 Avengers 285 Thor 379/2 Thor 380 Mephisto vs 4/1 Thor 381/1 Mephisto vs 4/2 Thor 381/2 Thor 382
I would like to propose to check if this list could be more appropriate than the present one at CMRO for, especially, the last part of Simonson's run in Thor. I am very sorry that I can not include other books to be more helpful.
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Posted: May 16th, 2013, 4:02 pm |
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