While I was reading the comcis by following the order

I realized surprisingly that Tales to Astonish #35 was called "Return of the Ant-Man"!!..............Return from where??
10 minutes later (thanks google) after snooping around, I finally find out that the first appearance of Ant-Man was in Tales to Astonish #27 story 1/3 the 2 others with no connection with the MU, dated form January 1962.
Reading further website as this one
http://rimes12.tripod.com/journal/09-23-1997.htmlvery interesting who said that:
Quote:
"Yes, Hank Pym debuted just a few months after FF #1. Pym was introduced in the story "The Man in the Ant Hill" in Tales to Astonish #27 (Jan. 1962) while FF #1 was cover-dated Nov. 1961. But in the TTA #27 story, there was no indication that Pym would ever actually meet the FF, or even return again in another story at all, anywhere! That makes it more a "pre-Marvel" story rather than a "MU proper" story, in my opinion.
SPOILE ALERT just here ¦
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That first Pym story (reprinted, by the way, in Marvel Collector's Item Classics #22, Aug. 1969) was typical of the pre-Marvel fantasy stories, with a scientist, unappreciated by society, discovering a fantastic invention and then abandoning it by the end of the story. In the end, he was saved from death by a lone ant (Stan Lee loved playing up these ironic and tragic touches in his stories) and concluded his serum was too dangerous for man to mess with, so he dumped it all down the drain. Yikes! Maybe there are more Krangs (pre-Marvel giant ant) out there!"
Incidentally I agree he also say that is more a pre-Marvel story, but that's more in the way to wright and narrate the story, I read it and actually I see no point to not include this story in the Order, it wouldnt broken the harmony of the order nor anything else
Anyway it is still a MU story and more important for me is dated after FF#1!
What you reckon??
hum on that theoretical note, I'm off

While I was reading the comcis by following the order :geek: I realized surprisingly that Tales to Astonish #35 was called "Return of the Ant-Man"!!..............Return from where??
10 minutes later (thanks google) after snooping around, I finally find out that the first appearance of Ant-Man was in Tales to Astonish #27 story 1/3 the 2 others with no connection with the MU, dated form January 1962.
Reading further website as this one [url]http://rimes12.tripod.com/journal/09-23-1997.html[/url]very interesting who said that:
[quote]"Yes, Hank Pym debuted just a few months after FF #1. Pym was introduced in the story "The Man in the Ant Hill" in Tales to Astonish #27 (Jan. 1962) while FF #1 was cover-dated Nov. 1961. But in the TTA #27 story, there was no indication that Pym would ever actually meet the FF, or even return again in another story at all, anywhere! That makes it more a "pre-Marvel" story rather than a "MU proper" story, in my opinion.
[size=150][b]SPOILE ALERT[/b][/size] just here ¦
___________________________\/
That first Pym story (reprinted, by the way, in Marvel Collector's Item Classics #22, Aug. 1969) was typical of the pre-Marvel fantasy stories, with a scientist, unappreciated by society, discovering a fantastic invention and then abandoning it by the end of the story. In the end, he was saved from death by a lone ant (Stan Lee loved playing up these ironic and tragic touches in his stories) and concluded his serum was too dangerous for man to mess with, so he dumped it all down the drain. Yikes! Maybe there are more Krangs (pre-Marvel giant ant) out there!"[/quote]
Incidentally I agree he also say that is more a pre-Marvel story, but that's more in the way to wright and narrate the story, I read it and actually I see no point to not include this story in the Order, it wouldnt broken the harmony of the order nor anything else
Anyway it is still a MU story and more important for me is dated after FF#1!
What you reckon??
hum on that theoretical note, I'm off :ugeek: