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PostPosted: January 30th, 2012, 3:45 pm 
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Ed Brubaker was tweeting about that on Saturday morning. I'd love to know how the costs compare between digital and print copies. I don't really buy the argument that digital doesn't have any costs involved with their production. I'm not really sure what they are as they don't seem as apparent as that of paper and ink. I'd also like to know how Comixology and Apple's cut compares to that of the LCS and Diamond.



I second Dooms statment. If you say its paper cost causing the price hike....then why does that go to the digital costs.

I don't know their price structure, but it can't be as bad as diamonds.

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DOOM wrote:
I'm sure there are some costs, but JQ had been scapegoating production/printing costs (he specifically mentioned paper quality a few times) for Marvel's price hike.
My attitude is "ok, I buy that. If you're not giving me paper, I shouldn't be paying for it."


Either he was feeding us all a line of BS from the start or similar costs are mirrored in some way in the production and distribution of a digital book.* None of that changes the fact that customers, myself included, feel that a digital product should be cheaper.

That's why I loved to know what the costs are that are associated with preparing the book for a digital market. Unfortunately, no one is telling. Just like how no one is reporting actual unit sales on digital books.

*At least, I imagine that to be the company line.


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PostPosted: January 30th, 2012, 8:42 pm 
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Jim Schnobrich wrote:
That's why I loved to know what the costs are that are associated with preparing the book for a digital market. Unfortunately, no one is telling. Just like how no one is reporting actual unit sales on digital books.


You don't have to be a genius to know it's just the same art production etc, then the product that would be printed is all just assembled in a file to be uploaded - I'd imagine almost all the art is done on computer nowadays anyway, and what isn't can be scanned in no time. No paper/ink cost, next to no machinery, essentially no distribution cost at all (other than hosting costs).

To have digital the same price as physical is so far in the deep end that I'm surprised they haven't drowned already.


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You made it look like I said that :(

In all seriousness, that's exactly what I think about it. I distribute that shit all day for free. It's called file sharing.

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PostPosted: January 31st, 2012, 6:48 am 
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Lol, I just deleted everything up to the [quote] tag, didn't even notice there was a quote within a quote


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So it's the cost of printing x number of copies, paying for ink, paper and etc. Paying to box them up and ship them to numerous locations throughout the US (and other parts). Versus uploading one digital copy, paying to host it and all your other issues on a domain and paying for a good chunk of bandwidth so people can download it hassle free. I'd say it's pretty obvious which is cheaper, and by a lot.

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No one is saying it needs to be .50 of even .99, but 1.99 is a reasonable pricepoint for same day digital content dropping down to .99 6 mo or so out.

The savings from 1) distribution costs and 2) giving a chunk to the retailer if they set up to distribute it themselves would make it still produce more money for them then the 3.99 price point.

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Not to mention how many MORE copies they could sell provided they market themselves smartly and can get the iTunes generation to tune in.

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Irishmetal wrote:
Jim Schnobrich wrote:
That's why I loved to know what the costs are that are associated with preparing the book for a digital market. Unfortunately, no one is telling. Just like how no one is reporting actual unit sales on digital books.


You don't have to be a genius to know it's just the same art production etc, then the product that would be printed is all just assembled in a file to be uploaded - I'd imagine almost all the art is done on computer nowadays anyway, and what isn't can be scanned in no time. No paper/ink cost, next to no machinery, essentially no distribution cost at all (other than hosting costs).

To have digital the same price as physical is so far in the deep end that I'm surprised they haven't drowned already.


I don't want anyone to mistake me. I am not saying I think digital comic books should cost the same as the physical copy. What I am wondering is if Brubaker's assertion that $0.99 isn't a sustainable price then what is? Personally I would feel comfortable paying $1.99 for a digital book. When the iPad first hit all the comics were at that price. I figured that that was just going to be the standard price but when publishers started releasing day & date books we all saw those prices rise.

I don't really believe it's pure profit for the publishers to go digital. That doesn't mention that both Comixology and Apple (when buying through iOS devices) both take their cut. Not entirely dissimilar to the amount that the LCS and Diamond both take, I'd imagine. So, how much is Marvel saving by not having to print and ship physical books? Not enough to price them at $0.99 apparently - or so we are lead to believe.


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