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PostPosted: February 20th, 2012, 3:25 pm 
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Ok, so I made some serious thinking lately and have some chronology thought. I don't know if You overcome Server problems, but I'll just write it here, and it can wait when You have time. So here we go:

Case 1:
In avengers 32 we can see Tony Stark introducing Bill Foster to Henry Pym. Next Issue (33) we can see Senator Byrd in UN (New York) during General Chen's address. Unfortunately both that issues are now listed between Tales of Suspense 83 & 84. In those we can see Iron Man and Byrd both in Washington waiting for Stark's testimony.
In my opinion it would be best if Tales of Suspense 84a-86a (one Iron Man story line - yes, iron man and captain have to be splitted) is moved somewhere before avengers 32
Case 2:
Captain America vs Super adaptoid - Tales of suspense 82b-84b should be together. It appears that cap captures adaptoid (83) and imidiatelly after that he brought avengers to see it (84). Also those three issues should be after Wanda and Pietro left the team for Europe (cap mentiones it in 82). They (and Tales of suspense 85b-87b) fit only between avengers 33 and 34 (it's not perfect but it's the only possible place).
Case 3:
Tales of suspense 88 starts in the middle of Avengers 38 (cap leaves avengers after seeing bucky) so TOS 88b-91b fits best imidiately after avengers 38 (it would make more sense that way)
case 4:
Daredevil 20-25 and Amazing spider-man 42-43 appears to happen simultanously (Foggy is Rhino's attorney, Rhino is mentioned in DD 22, Foggy guest stars in ASM 42 &43) so i think that they also should be read together. It's easier to move DD so DD 20-25 should be listed later just before ASM 42

Last two cases are not really chronology problems, but i think that those changes make things smoother
Case 5:
X-men 24 stan says: "no, this isn't really Johnny Storm and Wyatt Wingfoot...They're in the Himalayas! We just wanted to see if You were paying attention!" It wouldn't be hard to move FF 54 & 55 somewhere before X-men 24 so they could really get there
Case 6:
In Avengers 35 Hawkeye Says (about Tony Stark): "No wonder Ya Don't read much about him goin'to the Playboy Club any more!" that is strange after we all saw Tony going "I'll swing with a different chick each Night! It's the only way!" in Tales of Suspense 89. That's way I think TOS 89a should be after Avengers 38. But that's just me.

Thank You for Your time and attention.

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PostPosted: February 20th, 2012, 9:34 pm 
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According to wikia, Hamilton slade appeared in Avengers #142. And is different from carter slade in Ghost Rider #50.


I'm afraid wikia is wrong. I've checked it before and it was inconsistent.
According to wikipedia Hamilton slade appeared first in Ghost Rider 56:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Ri ... n_Slade%29

Avengers 142, 143 and Ghost Rider 50 were time travel issues and they presented original Phantom rider - carter slade. Ghost rider 51 also presented story about original Phantom Stranger - carter slade.

Hamilton Slade lives in the present (1980 that is) so he can't be in avengers 142 with Two gun kid and rawhide kid - it wouldn't make sense.

Alco check:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/phan ... carter.htm
I know you don't trust that page but it looks genuine.


Ok, fixed

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green_flame_616 wrote:
The conversation referenced in CM 22 is on page 18 of Avengers 103. There is also a reference on that page to CM 22, and both issues were published 9/72. I think it should be moved back to its old spot after Avengers 103.


Moved it (and 23 which directly follows) to follow Avengers 104 (which directly follows 103).

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Avengers is a pretty solid chuck of continuous story....what issues have the squadron supreme/kang saga...I see the Kang war, but it is much earlier...


It covers Avengers 141-144, 147-149. Which coincide with the Kang War...well, it's more of a ruckus than a war.

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Avengers is a pretty solid chuck of continuous story....what issues have the squadron supreme/kang saga...I see the Kang war, but it is much earlier...


It covers Avengers 141-144, 147-149. Which coincide with the Kang War...well, it's more of a ruckus than a war.



Tell that to the soldiers who didn't make it home!!!!!!

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hahaha, ruckus..that's just funny

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fragsel wrote:
Ok, so I made some serious thinking lately and have some chronology thought. I don't know if You overcome Server problems, but I'll just write it here, and it can wait when You have time. So here we go:

Case 1:
In avengers 32 we can see Tony Stark introducing Bill Foster to Henry Pym. Next Issue (33) we can see Senator Byrd in UN (New York) during General Chen's address. Unfortunately both that issues are now listed between Tales of Suspense 83 & 84. In those we can see Iron Man and Byrd both in Washington waiting for Stark's testimony.
In my opinion it would be best if Tales of Suspense 84a-86a (one Iron Man story line - yes, iron man and captain have to be splitted) is moved somewhere before avengers 32
Case 2:
Captain America vs Super adaptoid - Tales of suspense 82b-84b should be together. It appears that cap captures adaptoid (83) and imidiatelly after that he brought avengers to see it (84). Also those three issues should be after Wanda and Pietro left the team for Europe (cap mentiones it in 82). They (and Tales of suspense 85b-87b) fit only between avengers 33 and 34 (it's not perfect but it's the only possible place).
Case 3:
Tales of suspense 88 starts in the middle of Avengers 38 (cap leaves avengers after seeing bucky) so TOS 88b-91b fits best imidiately after avengers 38 (it would make more sense that way)
case 4:
Daredevil 20-25 and Amazing spider-man 42-43 appears to happen simultanously (Foggy is Rhino's attorney, Rhino is mentioned in DD 22, Foggy guest stars in ASM 42 &43) so i think that they also should be read together. It's easier to move DD so DD 20-25 should be listed later just before ASM 42

Last two cases are not really chronology problems, but i think that those changes make things smoother
Case 5:
X-men 24 stan says: "no, this isn't really Johnny Storm and Wyatt Wingfoot...They're in the Himalayas! We just wanted to see if You were paying attention!" It wouldn't be hard to move FF 54 & 55 somewhere before X-men 24 so they could really get there
Case 6:
In Avengers 35 Hawkeye Says (about Tony Stark): "No wonder Ya Don't read much about him goin'to the Playboy Club any more!" that is strange after we all saw Tony going "I'll swing with a different chick each Night! It's the only way!" in Tales of Suspense 89. That's way I think TOS 89a should be after Avengers 38. But that's just me.

Thank You for Your time and attention.


Updated all this

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:D Thanks.

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X-men 31 shows Mutants vs Cobald Man. During the fight Cobald Man decides to take "revenge" on iron man, so he goes to stark plant. When X-men got there Warren said that this building was destroyed and new one wasn't opened yet, It doesn't break any continuity ( I think ) but there is a disturbing editor's note saying that issue takes place before Tales of Suspense 89, so maybe it would be good idea to Move TOS 89a-91a between X-men 31 and 32. That way we also awoid reading four X-men issues in a row (I'm great fan, but at this point it's just as paintfull as reading two Daredevils)

Also: I know i said previosusly that TOS 88b-91b should immidately follow avengers 38, but as i read on i discovered that Cap send a message to avengers in A40 while he was considered traitor (TOS 90-91). Between TOS 90 and 91 there is almost 24 hours break so i thought that maybe it would be possible to move TOS 88b-90b just before avengers 39 and TOS 91b just after avengers 40. I know how You feel about breaking story line, but i think that in that case it might improve it.

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fragsel wrote:
X-men 31 shows Mutants vs Cobald Man. During the fight Cobald Man decides to take "revenge" on iron man, so he goes to stark plant. When X-men got there Warren said that this building was destroyed and new one wasn't opened yet, It doesn't break any continuity ( I think ) but there is a disturbing editor's note saying that issue takes place before Tales of Suspense 89, so maybe it would be good idea to Move TOS 89a-91a between X-men 31 and 32. That way we also awoid reading four X-men issues in a row (I'm great fan, but at this point it's just as paintfull as reading two Daredevils)

Also: I know i said previosusly that TOS 88b-91b should immidately follow avengers 38, but as i read on i discovered that Cap send a message to avengers in A40 while he was considered traitor (TOS 90-91). Between TOS 90 and 91 there is almost 24 hours break so i thought that maybe it would be possible to move TOS 88b-90b just before avengers 39 and TOS 91b just after avengers 40. I know how You feel about breaking story line, but i think that in that case it might improve it.


Doesn't make sense spliting X-Men 31 & 32, one leads directly into the other. I am pushing the issues all behind UX #34.

The other move works.

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