I think that if Travis wanted to move things in this area better idea would be breaking strange tales on two different parts and moving only dr. strange stories (leaving fury how he is now) to appear before Fantastic Four 3. It's better solution to avoid more Hydra continuity errors.

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also to avoid situation when someona says I'm inconsequent about the Hydra let me say that: their appearance in Avengers 19 is hidden, they appeared on that issue but no one saw them (not captain, not any shield agent) so when they reappeared months later nick fury could be suprised (and he was)
But if they appear openly in reed & sue wedding after the end of hydra that would be totally confusing - massive continuity error.

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Ah, I didn't realize that their survival was a surprise. Yes, it sounds like the Strangle Tales issues currently listed after FFA3 up to ST144 should be split and the Strange stories placed before FFA3 while the Fury stories placed after.

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There is a long string of thing's appearances between Marvel Two-In-One 3 & 4 which brings the question: "Who is babysitting Wundarr while Thing is away?". That's why I think Marvel Two-In-One 4-5 should be somewhere before Giant Size Super Stars, but since MTIO 4 also affects Namorita & Captain America heres my suggestions:
1. Move Giant Size Super Villain team up 1,Sub-Mariner 70 & 71 (in that speciffic order) because that's where Namorita is sent to College (You can put in for example between Strange Tales 176 & Tomb of Dracula 17 cause it beautifully breaks awfully long string of horror titles). That also improves namor storyline (he says something about invading land, which he later do in FF 147-149, even if for other reasons)
2. Move Marvel Two-In-One 4&5 (for example between Marvel Spotligh 15 & Chamber of Chills 4 - this string of horror is really awfully long) so it's after Nita goes to college but previously to next thing appearance - Nita takes Wundarr, Thing can have adventures with FF

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Damn Gina! That was a big-assed move for Jungle Action. It's thrown my next issue link into a tizzy!

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yea, sorry about that. Fragsel pointed out a problem with Black Panthers timeline that needed to get fixed. unfortunitly, 1700+ at the moment is the area where moves are more likely to happen.

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Not trying to overcomplicate an already complicated situation, but re: Strange Tales and FF Annual 3 -

Dum Dum Dugan and Gabe Jones appear in FF Annual 3, while their first Strange Tales appearance is ST 137 ... which, as it stands is after FF Annual 3. It's not so much a continuity problem, since they could have become active at SHIELD between ST 136 and FF Annual 3, but it's clear that the publishers intended FF Annual 3 to be read after ST 137. But if that messes HYDRA continuity up too much, then leave it be.

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wiki says that later stories revealed that dum dum has been working with Nick fury in the CIA and than went with him to SHIELD (I guess as soon as Nick started working there). I don't see that as a mistake, but that's just me
Just think of them as Nicki and Paolo of SHIELD (which supposed to be cute Lost reference)

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The placement of Giant-Size Super Villain Team-Up 1 feels a bit off. It currently sits at Order #1690 but references FF 155, which is Order #1907. The action in the story does take place before the events of FF 155 but the story is written somewhat as a flashback. I think it should be moved to some point after FF 155 and marked as a Flashback Issue.

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because I wrote about Giant size Super Villain Team up in my last suggestion about wundarr I just wanted to say I'm with green_flame_616 on it. It really seems a bit off. It works better as flashback

Also: there is a problem with shang-chi appearances which can be corrected if You place issues like this:
I. master of kung fu 21 (last issue of a storyline starting in 17 when shang-chi met denis, then went to florida, next issue back in new york)
II. Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 4b (Sons of the Tiger still not in new york)
III. Deadly Hands of Kung Fu Special Edition #1 (Sons of the Tiger moved to New York, Iron Fist after he revenged his parents so it must be after Marvel Premiere18, shang-chi in new york and he knows denis, so it has to be after Master 21)
IV.deadly hands of Kung-fu 4a (shang chi goes on a trip which ends in issue 11)
V. hands of kung fu 5

Of course my suggestion is to leave master of kung fu 21 and deadly hands 5 where they are currently and move/split those two other issues.

Edit: just finished Giant Size spider man 2. spiderman & shang-chi met near the 59th street bridge which was destroyed 3 issues ago (one storyline ago) in deadly hands of kung fu 9. I know how easy everything is rebuid in 616 new york, but thats just crazy. If You don't mind moveing it between Master kung fu 21 & deady hands of kung fu 4b or maybe moveing it further in order to give the city (i guess it's not yet Damage Control time) time to repair it I would be very happy. Thank You

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