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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
PostPosted: April 20th, 2017, 2:27 pm 
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Thank you!

I've added them.

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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
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The Time Meddler perhaps. It's the first time we meet another member of the Doctor's race.

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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
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tearsofrage wrote:
To anybody who has an opinion on this, I have a question. What other serials should I add?

I've only seen up to the beginning of the 3rd Doctor, so I can't comment beyond that, though I can take your recommendations.

But for the first two Doctors, what else should I add. Some that I'm considering:

Edge of Destruction - first time sentience of the Tardis is brought up
The Rescue - Vicki's introduction
The Chase - Ian and Barbara leave/Steven's introduction
The Myth Makers - Vicki's Exit
The Dalek's Master Plan - first time a companion dies
The Savages - Steven's Exit
The War Machines - Ben and Polly's introduction
The Highlanders - Jamie's introduction
The Faceless Ones - Ben and Polly's exit
The Abominable Snowmen - Great Intelligence introduction
The Ice Warriors - Ice Warriors introduction
Web of Fear - Lethbridge Stewart's introduction
Fury from the Deep - Victoria's exit
Wheel in Space - Zoe's introduction

Looking at this list, perhaps it's not important to mark every exit/entrance of a major companion.


It might be worth dropping Abominable Snowmen in place of Web of Fear as a showcase of the Great Intelligence, if only because The Abominable Snowmen is a Lost Serial, while Web of Fear is mostly recovered and has consequently received a DVD release.

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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
PostPosted: June 7th, 2017, 9:49 am 
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Do you think the Great Intelligence is worthy of an essential rating? I mean, I know he comes back in kind of a big way in the 50th Anniversary, but I'm not convinced that he should be essential.

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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
PostPosted: June 7th, 2017, 7:49 pm 
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The problem with that question is, nothing from 1963-1989 will ever be essential to 2005-ongoing. You don't need to know anything about the Great Intelligence when Richard E Grant shows up in the 2012 Christmas special or the 2013 series that isn't in those episodes themselves. Heck, without home video or repeats, 1963-1989 was rarely essential to itself.

A far more interesting basis for an essentials list might be -- which bits of Doctor Who have seeped into the larger culture as a whole, which bits are significant chapters in a sort of broader "The Story of Doctor Who"?

Based on that, what I'd for sure include from 1963-1989:

  • An Unearthly Child (first episode only)
  • The Daleks
  • The Aztecs ("Not one line!")
  • The Dalek Invasion of Earth
  • The Crusade
  • The Chase
  • The Time Meddler
  • Galaxy 4
  • Mission to the Unknown
  • The Myth Makers
  • The Daleks' Master Plan
  • The Massacre
  • The Ark
  • The War Machines
  • The Tenth Planet
  • The Power of the Daleks
  • The Highlanders
  • The Faceless Ones
  • The Tomb of the Cybermen
  • The Abominable Snowmen
  • The Enemy of the World
  • The Web of Fear
  • The Invasion
  • The War Games
  • Spearhead from Space
  • Inferno
  • Terror of the Autons
  • The Three Doctors
  • The Green Death
  • The Time Warrior
  • Planet of the Spiders
  • Robot
  • Genesis of the Daleks
  • Pyramids of Mars
  • The Brain of Morbius
  • The Deadly Assassin
  • The Robots of Death
  • The Talons of Weng-Chiang
  • Horror of Fang Rock
  • City of Death
  • The Keeper of Traken
  • Logopolis
  • Castrovalva
  • Earthshock
  • Arc of Infinity
  • Mawdryn Undead
  • Planet of Fire
  • The Caves of Androzani
  • The Two Doctors
  • Dragonfire
  • Battlefield
  • Ghost Light
  • The Curse of Fenric
  • Survival
  • The TV Movie

This list has some problems, obviously, not least of which being that I've only included one Colin Baker story.

Post-2005 everything ties together much more, obviously, and anything you're dropping you're dropping for the sake of dropping it.

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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
PostPosted: June 9th, 2017, 2:56 pm 
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That's a good list. Although I'm can't think of any situation where I'd consider Galaxy 4 as essential!

As for Colin, I might add Trial of a Time Lord ( or bits of it at least). But there isn't much of his that I'd consider essential either.

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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
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mrtc2003 wrote:
That's a good list. Although I'm can't think of any situation where I'd consider Galaxy 4 as essential!

As for Colin, I might add Trial of a Time Lord ( or bits of it at least). But there isn't much of his that I'd consider essential either.

I included Galaxy 4 for context with Mission, Myth, and Master Plan -- but you're right, the Chumblies aren't exactly the Daleks, are they.

Even if sticking to a TV-centric list, I'd seriously consider including a selection of audios for the Davison, Colin Baker, McCoy, and McGann incarnations, even if those are, by definition, not remotely essential.

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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
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Alex Daily wrote:
mrtc2003 wrote:
That's a good list. Although I'm can't think of any situation where I'd consider Galaxy 4 as essential!

As for Colin, I might add Trial of a Time Lord ( or bits of it at least). But there isn't much of his that I'd consider essential either.

I included Galaxy 4 for context with Mission, Myth, and Master Plan -- but you're right, the Chumblies aren't exactly the Daleks, are they.

Even if sticking to a TV-centric list, I'd seriously consider including a selection of audios for the Davison, Colin Baker, McCoy, and McGann incarnations, even if those are, by definition, not remotely essential.


We could make a list of essential audios, since people might be interested in those. This isn't going on the site anyways, so it's whatever we want. I can add it to the original post.

I've only listed to first Doctor audios, so I can't help much with that list.

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 Post subject: Re: Essentials Order
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I'm not sure I think The Massacre is essential. I know it's technically Dodo's first appearance, but that's just at the end.

Edit: Nevermind. Now that I think about it, that whole serial kinda does set up Dodo becoming the companion.

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Keep in mind that nobody watching, say, what we know today as The Daleks' Master Plan would have had any real awareness of it as one single story -- as Phil Sandifer says, "The Daleks' Master Plan isn't five and a half hours long. It's four months long, counting Mission to the Unknown."

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