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PostPosted: May 9th, 2012, 12:06 am 
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There is a note in Captain America 170 that says the Black Panther's dealings with the Falcon take place before the events of Panther's Rage. It might be worth shifting that run of CA 168-175 to right before Panther's Rage rather than right after, unless there is another conflict that I'm not seeing.

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PostPosted: May 9th, 2012, 12:22 am 
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Avengers 82 has FF cameo in it. The problem is: Where is Crystal? She's not on the plane with reed, ben & Johnny, she's not with sue, she's not on the manhattan (Zodiac would capture her). That means it take place after she left the team. So my guess is: FF 95-96 should be moved somewhere before avengers 82 (FF95 alone would be enough, but both are better for the reasons i don't want to reveal not to make Doom laugh at me again)

Also: (about my previous entry about Dr Strange)
I've read it again and i know now that the timescale doesn't really matters, but:

fragsel wrote:
One thing for sure: Incredible Hulk 125 must be after sub mariner 22 because on the last page we can see members of cult led by Van Nyborg, which couldn't be created before finding the idol in Sub Mariner 22.


that one shoul be fixed

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I am going to move them in front of Avengers #80 because of the Daredevil plot thread between 81 and 82.

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PostPosted: May 9th, 2012, 2:09 pm 
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I think War is Hell 9-15 (c. 1974) should be added either to the main order or the supplemental order you have set up. It's actually a really interesting concept, it stars Death (who is introduced in the first Thanos arc) and a war criminal who died in WWII. Each issue death reanimates him into the body of someone who is about to die so that he will suffer through death over and over as penance, but he sets out to change the world for the better each time. I'm not sure if it all takes place Pre FF 1 or not so I don't know where it should go. Anyway, Death is a Marvel mainstay and this other character shows up in a few other in-continuity titles so it should be included somewhere.

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War is Hell is one of the WWII titles and is planned to be in the WWII order when that is done.

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Sounds good, I just found out about it and didn't see mention of it anywhere, so I just thought I'd throw it out there.

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I should add it to the non-order in-continuity listing so it at least shows up for now.

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I just read Strange Tales 130 and found that the Dr. Strange story ends on a cliffhanger. Shouldn't Strange Tales 131 (or at least the Dr. Strange portion) be placed right after it in the Order?

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vanhornluke wrote:
I just read Strange Tales 130 and found that the Dr. Strange story ends on a cliffhanger. Shouldn't Strange Tales 131 (or at least the Dr. Strange portion) be placed right after it in the Order?


I just read Strange Tales 131. The Dr. Strange portion definitely takes place right after 130. I also don't see any problems in moving it to right after 130, either.

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1. whole plot of amazing spider-man 86 is based on his sickness, which he thinks was caused by a blow he just received from Kingpin. That means spider-man's appearances in Captain America 130, Avengers 82 & Silver Surfer 14 can't happened between ASM 85& 86. Also Asm 86 &87 are better when put together (cliffhanger). WHat do I suggest: Move ASM 83-85 & 87 to the place where 86 is now.
2. at the begining of amazing adventures 3 JJ Jameson shows Peter Parker copy of Daily Bugle about Black Widow actions from issue 2. But between issue 2 & 3 JJJ was captured by Octopus, Captain Stacy was killed and Bullit was exposed. That would made Black widow "yesterday news". In my opinion amazing adventures 3-4 should be moved directly after issue 2. It works for Inhumans too.
3. about black widow: at the begining of amazing adventures she recalls her fight with spider-man as the kind of excitement she lacks. But she just finished fighting with avengers. I think that issue of avengers (83) is to soon. Medusa also seems out of place (she should be with Crystal in Great Refuge helping Black Bolt - check FF 99). I would list it anywhere between Amazing adventures 4 & avengers 84.
4. more about inhumans: in FF 95 Medusa takes Crystal to Great Refuge. In FF 99 we find out it's to help Black Bolt & Crystal cames back with FF. But in between You listed Silver Surfer 18 in which there is no Crystal and Black Bolt needs no help. I suggest moving Silver Surfer 16-18 after FF 99 (because of SHIELD & Iron Man in it best place might be between Sub mariner 27 & iron Man 27)
5 i know i sound like broken record but i suggest one more time moveing incredible hulk 125 just before 126 (if You find time please check again my post about dr strange:
fragsel wrote:
On first page of Doctor Strange 180 he mentiones it'a one day after his meeting with the avengers (avengers 61). Then he fights Nightmare, gets a telegram and there is Doctor Strange 183 which starts storyline with Nameles One - It all appear to happen in one or two days. But when that storyline ended (In Sub-Mariner 22 & Incredible Hulk 126 ) Strange says something about comming back home "after all this months". That means he was looking for the idol (Sub 22) and trapped (incredible Hulk) for a long time.
My point: You could move Dr Strange 180-183 closer to avengers 61 (for example immidiately after avengers 62), than move sub mariner 22 closer to 21 (because dr starnge is traped in sub 22 and his entrapment isn't short one - which is confirmed by nameless one) - maybe after captain marvel 17? One thing for sure: Incredible Hulk 125 must be after sub mariner 22 because on the last page we can see members of cult led by Van Nyborg, which couldn't be created before finding the idol in Sub Mariner 22.


-changeing Dr Strange's time scale is just cosmetic, but Hulk breaks the cchronology)

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