I'm going to highjack this thread. I'm not going to hijack this thread. Imnotgoingtohijackthisthread!

Fuck it....





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I know we went over this....but I have turned around on first class....I kinda liked it.

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First Class was like one half each of two movies mushed together. The Magneto centric stuff was unbelievable and featured some of the best character development I've seen in a superhero film. His "coming to terms with the holocaust/revenge" story just didn't gel with the swingin' sixties vibe of the rest of the film. That really brought it down in my opinion. That said, the Magneto stuff was great and the rest wasn't any worse than OK, so that averages out to a fairly good movie.

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I really enjoyed the spy thirller (the first part), and somewhat less so the action/super-hero move (the second half). So I get your point, but overall I liked it.

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Agreed on the tale of two movies bit, although both worked for me (except for the characterization of Emma Frost, which was just weird). I really liked that they had it take place in the 1960's; I'm not a fan of Marvel's sliding timescale, and only begrudgingly accept it as a necessary evil (I don't want a "crisis" every five years, and I can't ask everybody to just read superhero stories set in the 1970s and 80s for perpetuity [although that might be rad]).

For me, the main flaw with the movie was outside of the realm of control for the writers/director/actors. That flaw is that it's part of the same cinematic universe as the previous X-Men films. Don't get me wrong, X-Men was all right, and X2 was awesome, but we all know what a disappointment "Last Stand" was, and don't get me started on the Wolverine movie. But even if all of those movies were awesome, they took place in a very "sliding timescale" universe, and so a 1960s setting for First Class must needs be without characters such as Cyclops and Jean Grey, who aside from being fan favorites, are logical players in an X-Men origin movie.
I think it would have played better to have Scott instead of Alex, Angel instead of Banshee, Jean instead of Mystique (and just do away with the Mystique/Charles thing, which worked admittedly well, but would have worked even better if it wasn't there at all), and Iceman instead of Darwin (but don't kill off Iceman).

Anyway. /offtopic

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I liked the charles/mystique thing.

And I also liked they went with characters that were not in the main movies. And glad there was no iceman. I kinda hate the movie version of iceman.

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That's my point, they shouldn't have been beholden to the original movies, they could have done their own Iceman.

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I would love a movie version of the Iceman from the X-Men: First Class comics!
That's the best Iceman there ever was.

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True, but with movies the way they are, you really have to have them exist in the same world. If they were seperate, it would confuse the hell out of audiences.

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Like having a Spider-Man movie that is completely unrelated to the first three movies?
I think there was a thread about that around here somewhere...

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